Comments on: What Turns Christians Into Atheists?

By: AngieJackson

AngieJackson — Sun, 16 Aug 2009 14:42:31 +0000

Thanks Saul :)

By: Saul Burbridge

Saul Burbridge — Sun, 16 Aug 2009 13:40:58 +0000

You've obviously misunderstood why people like us take part in the things that we do. We are not doing this simply to address the abuses. We are doing this because the world would be a better place without assumption and faith altogether. We're doing it for the believers benefit, as being educated in matters of science leads to more freedom of the mind, which isn't the case for religion, in which you have to be close minded in order to hold flawed ideas in your mind without wish to replace them with valid ideas (believing in Creation instead of Evolution is a perfect example of this point). We do it to teach, not to preach. Knowledge is power, so why allow power-hungry religious leaders to cut off knowledge and replace it with fantasy and pure speculation.

By: Saul Burbridge

Saul Burbridge — Sun, 16 Aug 2009 12:05:43 +0000

Why make the effort to deconvert people? I'd say in the interest of humanity, or at least in the interest of the wellbeing of children. We shouldn't let children suffer at the hands of faith, be threatened with hell until they suffer from psychological problems, just because their parents think that it will save them during the coming judgement that Christians believe in. OK, so it might die out eventually of its own accord, and Christianity is a dying monster, there's no denying that, but why just allow people to suffer in their youth because we know that is going to happen? If we work hard enough to make parents see that bringing a child up with no religious convictions is best for their education and their adult life, less people will suffer in the world than will suffer as the world stands at present.

By: Saul Burbridge

Saul Burbridge — Sun, 16 Aug 2009 12:01:44 +0000

Too true Adrian. What these people who claim we are "evangelical" need to realize is that we are teaching based on true knowledge, with evidence to back it up, rather than preaching based on out of date scriptures like the bible, as they do.

By: Saul Burbridge

Saul Burbridge — Sun, 16 Aug 2009 12:00:10 +0000

Great response Angie. :)

By: Saul Burbridge

Saul Burbridge — Sun, 16 Aug 2009 11:59:13 +0000

You may say that it is "pompous" for us to believe that our way of life is better than that of a religious person, but you'd be wrong again. If our way of life and our way of thinking had no more benefits for the world than a religious way of life you would be right. However, seeing as our way of life is based on science, logic, and evidence, and the religious way of life is based on faith, our way of life has a lot to offer the world whereas the religious way of life has nothing but blindness to give. If it wasn't for natural science, logic, and evidence, we wouldn't have most of the things that we take for granted today…no television, no computers, no internet…we wouldn't even be able to have this discussion. If everyone in the world lived religiously, we'd be stuck in the stone ages, and therefore it is in the name of progression that we want people to learn rather than to be ignorant.

By: Saul Burbridge

Saul Burbridge — Sun, 16 Aug 2009 11:51:27 +0000

You see, the thing is, there is no such thing as "Evangelical Atheism". Evangelicalism is based on preaching, which is based on making assumptions and pushing them onto people without any logic or evidence. However, we are not talking about pushing our world views onto someone with no evidence, we are talking about teaching people about reality and proving our point with evidence. If what we're doing is evangelical, then every school teacher in the world is also an Evangelical. Teaching and Preaching are two separate things.

By: Saul Burbridge

Saul Burbridge — Sun, 16 Aug 2009 11:50:17 +0000

You see, the thing is, there is no such thing as "Evangelical Atheism". Evangelicalism is based on preaching, which is based on making assumptions and pushing them onto people without any logic or evidence. However, we are not talking about pushing our world views onto someone with no evidence, we are talking about teaching people about reality and proving our point. If what we're doing is evangelical, then every school teacher in the world is also an Evangelical. Teaching and Preaching are two separate things.

By: Saul Burbridge

Saul Burbridge — Sun, 16 Aug 2009 10:36:53 +0000

Thank you. I'm sure it will be excellent.

By: Saul Burbridge

Saul Burbridge — Sun, 16 Aug 2009 10:35:13 +0000

Everything you are doing is positive for a better world. :)