Comments on: More Conversations With The Deluded

By: Ben Abbott

Ben Abbott — Sun, 22 Jun 2008 16:54:36 +0000

nuku: “you know people lie you crack me up you call yourselves free thinkers yet you debunk the idea of intelligent design.”

If pointing out the ID is not scientific is “debunk”ing, so be it.

nuku: “… preferring to pedal sum unproven theory …”

Theories are *never* proven. Theories are conceptual and * testable* constructs which explain/model/predict *how* stuff works.

“Germ theory” explains how people get colds. The “theory of gravity” explains how apples fall from tress. “Evolutionary theory” explains how life evolved.

nuku: “… humans crawling outta the oceans preferring to make science your god …”

Science has no position on god. If there is any relation, science might be described as an evidential method seeking to understand *how* god’s creation works. If there is a side of this debate which rejects god is it lies with those who reject God’s evidence in favor of their imaginations.

nuku: “… where do you think einstien formulated his eqation emc2 [squared’ from darwin???”

His formulation followed and follows from a conceptual extension of observations. If Einstein and Darwin share a common link, it is in how far they were able to conceptual extend what they observed.

By: Adrian Hayter

Adrian Hayter — Sun, 22 Jun 2008 08:32:15 +0000

nuku,

There is no theory that states humans crawled out of the oceans. Neither is Darwin’s theory of Evolution the current accepted theory (many major modifications have been make in light of evidence). I have no idea why you would even mention e=mc2 coming from Darwin…

By: nuku haddon

nuku haddon — Sun, 22 Jun 2008 04:06:29 +0000

you know people lie you crack me up you call yourselves free thinkers yet you debunk the idea of intelligent design preferring to pedal sum unproven theory of humans crawling outta the oceans preferring to make science your god your a laugh where do you think einstien formulated his eqation emc2 sqared from darwin???

By: Adrian Hayter

Adrian Hayter — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 20:51:35 +0000

Ben Abbott,

He’s certainly not my friend. He started emailing me reckoning he could convert me with some simple proofs of God. Of course he pretty much used the standard arguments, and when I debunked them he started insulting me randomly.

I’m open to any attempts to convert me since I’m a very open minded person, but I don’t accept people imposing their view on me through petty insults.

By: Ben Abbott

Ben Abbott — Wed, 18 Jun 2008 12:57:48 +0000

You’re friend (?) doesn’t appear to grasp that the goal of science is to understand, and that the product of that pursuit are science’s theories ;-)

By: Adrian Hayter

Adrian Hayter — Tue, 17 Jun 2008 23:13:47 +0000

Vellvoot,

Yeah, I mentioned that to him. He ignored it. :P

By: nullifidian

nullifidian — Tue, 17 Jun 2008 23:08:50 +0000

I think the shakers have (had?) the right idea. And not about shaking or mouthing gibberish...

By: Doris Tracey

Doris Tracey — Tue, 17 Jun 2008 23:07:39 +0000

Our hearts are tilted 23 degrees like the earths. Everywhere there is energy there is life and energy is everywhere, just different frequencies and octaves.

By: Vellvoot

Vellvoot — Tue, 17 Jun 2008 21:47:30 +0000

Can I just add that “Eskimos” aka Inuit peoples don’t live in Antarctica. Only research scientists live there.

I hope that he put more research into the rest of his points which I have yet to read.