Comments on: A Fundamentalist Christian Answers The Atheist Thirteen http://atheistblogger.com/2008/06/24/a-fundamentalist-christian-answers-the-atheist-thirteen/ Thu, 18 Mar 2010 16:15:15 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Saul Burbridge http://atheistblogger.com/2008/06/24/a-fundamentalist-christian-answers-the-atheist-thirteen/comment-page-1/#comment-5841 Saul Burbridge Sat, 15 Aug 2009 12:04:18 +0000 http://atheistblogger.com/?p=131#comment-5841 Francesca, if you seriously think you have the best arguments in the world then you are sadly mistaken. None of your arguments are based on logic or evidence, and at least one of your answers is completely wrong. You're answers are so off-the-mark that I can't tell whether you are being honest or joking. You have described Intelligent Design as "Truth", and yet intelligent design has been proven wrong undoubtedly, so you can neither claim to have the best argument in the world or a good knowledge of science. If you seriously think as you do I think you need to do your research. You have also voiced that you don't like how we Atheists supposedly believe that "faith in Christ signifies lack in intelligence", but I have never heard an Atheist speak with that conviction. I also feel it is hypocritical for you to say this, seeing as you have already stated that intelligent design is "truth" to you, and belief in Intelligent Design usually does signify a lack of intelligence in the fields of logic, science, and general knowledge. Most Christians now accept Evolution, and so if Atheists did feel that Christianity meant a person had low intelligence, it would be Christians like you who still believe in ridiculous concepts like Intelligent Design that are to blame for letting the rest of the world's Christians down, not us letting our beliefs down, because you are the one that believes in the invalid concept, not us. On the contrary, your irrational belief in intelligent design would actually validate an Atheists decision to believe of some Christians as you think we do of all. Francesca, if you seriously think you have the best arguments in the world then you are sadly mistaken. None of your arguments are based on logic or evidence, and at least one of your answers is completely wrong. You're answers are so off-the-mark that I can't tell whether you are being honest or joking.

You have described Intelligent Design as "Truth", and yet intelligent design has been proven wrong undoubtedly, so you can neither claim to have the best argument in the world or a good knowledge of science. If you seriously think as you do I think you need to do your research.

You have also voiced that you don't like how we Atheists supposedly believe that "faith in Christ signifies lack in intelligence", but I have never heard an Atheist speak with that conviction. I also feel it is hypocritical for you to say this, seeing as you have already stated that intelligent design is "truth" to you, and belief in Intelligent Design usually does signify a lack of intelligence in the fields of logic, science, and general knowledge.

Most Christians now accept Evolution, and so if Atheists did feel that Christianity meant a person had low intelligence, it would be Christians like you who still believe in ridiculous concepts like Intelligent Design that are to blame for letting the rest of the world's Christians down, not us letting our beliefs down, because you are the one that believes in the invalid concept, not us. On the contrary, your irrational belief in intelligent design would actually validate an Atheists decision to believe of some Christians as you think we do of all.

]]> By: Saul Burbridge http://atheistblogger.com/2008/06/24/a-fundamentalist-christian-answers-the-atheist-thirteen/comment-page-1/#comment-5836 Saul Burbridge Sat, 15 Aug 2009 11:16:33 +0000 http://atheistblogger.com/?p=131#comment-5836 As Adrian has rightly said, straw men can only be made if you are trying to prove or disprove something (it's when your argument to defend your point doesn't refute the actual position but a different position that is similar to the one argued), and seeing as this isn't an argument, therefore he isn't trying to prove or disprove anything, no strawmen have been made in his post. As Adrian has rightly said, straw men can only be made if you are trying to prove or disprove something (it's when your argument to defend your point doesn't refute the actual position but a different position that is similar to the one argued), and seeing as this isn't an argument, therefore he isn't trying to prove or disprove anything, no strawmen have been made in his post.

]]> By: Saul Burbridge http://atheistblogger.com/2008/06/24/a-fundamentalist-christian-answers-the-atheist-thirteen/comment-page-1/#comment-5835 Saul Burbridge Sat, 15 Aug 2009 11:06:32 +0000 http://atheistblogger.com/?p=131#comment-5835 Francesca, if you seriously think you have the best arguments in the world then you are sadly mistaken. None of your arguments are based on logic or evidence, and at least one of your answers is completely wrong. You're answers are so off-the-mark that I can't tell whether you are being honest or joking. You have described Intelligent Design as "Truth", and yet intelligent design has been proven wrong undoubtedly, so you can neither claim to have the best argument in the world or a good knowledge of science. If you seriously think as you do I think you need to do your research. You have also voiced that you don't like how we Atheists supposedly believe that "faith in Christ signifies lack in intelligence", but I have never heard an Atheist speak with that conviction. I also feel it is hypocritical for you to say this, seeing as you have already stated that intelligent design is "truth" to you, and belief in Intelligent Design usually does signify a lack of intelligence in the fields of logic, science, and general knowledge. Most Christians now accept Evolution, and so if Atheists did feel that Christianity meant a person had low intelligence, it would be Christians like you who still believe in ridiculous concepts like Intelligent Design that are to blame for letting the rest of the world's Christians down, not us letting our beliefs down, because you are the one that believes in the invalid concept, not us. On the contrary, your irrational belief in intelligent design would actually validate an Atheists decision to believe of Christians as you think we do. Francesca, if you seriously think you have the best arguments in the world then you are sadly mistaken. None of your arguments are based on logic or evidence, and at least one of your answers is completely wrong. You're answers are so off-the-mark that I can't tell whether you are being honest or joking.

You have described Intelligent Design as "Truth", and yet intelligent design has been proven wrong undoubtedly, so you can neither claim to have the best argument in the world or a good knowledge of science. If you seriously think as you do I think you need to do your research.

You have also voiced that you don't like how we Atheists supposedly believe that "faith in Christ signifies lack in intelligence", but I have never heard an Atheist speak with that conviction. I also feel it is hypocritical for you to say this, seeing as you have already stated that intelligent design is "truth" to you, and belief in Intelligent Design usually does signify a lack of intelligence in the fields of logic, science, and general knowledge.

Most Christians now accept Evolution, and so if Atheists did feel that Christianity meant a person had low intelligence, it would be Christians like you who still believe in ridiculous concepts like Intelligent Design that are to blame for letting the rest of the world's Christians down, not us letting our beliefs down, because you are the one that believes in the invalid concept, not us. On the contrary, your irrational belief in intelligent design would actually validate an Atheists decision to believe of Christians as you think we do.

]]> By: Saul Burbridge http://atheistblogger.com/2008/06/24/a-fundamentalist-christian-answers-the-atheist-thirteen/comment-page-1/#comment-5833 Saul Burbridge Sat, 15 Aug 2009 11:05:01 +0000 http://atheistblogger.com/?p=131#comment-5833 Francesca, if you seriously think you have the best arguments in the world then you are sadly mistaken. None of your arguments are based on logic or evidence, and at least one of your answers is completely wrong. You're answers are so off-the-mark that I can't tell whether you are being honest or joking. You have described Intelligent Design as "Truth", and yet intelligent design has been proven wrong undoubtedly, so you can neither claim to have the best argument in the world or a good knowledge of science. If you seriously think as you do I think you need to do your research. You have also voiced that you don't like how we Atheists supposedly believe that "faith in Christ signifies lack in intelligence", but I have never heard an Atheist speak with that conviction. I also feel it is hypocritical for you to say this, seeing as you have already stated that intelligent design is "truth" to you, and belief in Intelligent Design usually does signify a lack of intelligence in the fields of logic, science, and general knowledge. Most Christians now accept Evolution, and so if Atheists did feel that Christianity meant a person had low intelligence, it would be Christians like you who still believe in ridiculous concepts like Intelligent Design that are to blame for letting the rest of the world's Christians down, not us letting our beliefs down, because you are the one that believes in the invalid concept, not us. Francesca, if you seriously think you have the best arguments in the world then you are sadly mistaken. None of your arguments are based on logic or evidence, and at least one of your answers is completely wrong. You're answers are so off-the-mark that I can't tell whether you are being honest or joking.

You have described Intelligent Design as "Truth", and yet intelligent design has been proven wrong undoubtedly, so you can neither claim to have the best argument in the world or a good knowledge of science. If you seriously think as you do I think you need to do your research.

You have also voiced that you don't like how we Atheists supposedly believe that "faith in Christ signifies lack in intelligence", but I have never heard an Atheist speak with that conviction. I also feel it is hypocritical for you to say this, seeing as you have already stated that intelligent design is "truth" to you, and belief in Intelligent Design usually does signify a lack of intelligence in the fields of logic, science, and general knowledge.

Most Christians now accept Evolution, and so if Atheists did feel that Christianity meant a person had low intelligence, it would be Christians like you who still believe in ridiculous concepts like Intelligent Design that are to blame for letting the rest of the world's Christians down, not us letting our beliefs down, because you are the one that believes in the invalid concept, not us.

]]> By: Saul Burbridge http://atheistblogger.com/2008/06/24/a-fundamentalist-christian-answers-the-atheist-thirteen/comment-page-1/#comment-5834 Saul Burbridge Sat, 15 Aug 2009 11:04:40 +0000 http://atheistblogger.com/?p=131#comment-5834 Francesca, if you seriously think you have the best arguments in the world then you are sadly mistaken. None of your arguments are based on logic or evidence, and at least one of your answers is completely wrong. You're answers are so off-the-mark that I can't tell whether you are being honest or joking. You have described Intelligent Design as "Truth", and yet intelligent design has been proven wrong undoubtedly, so you can neither claim to have the best argument in the world or a good knowledge of science. If you seriously think as you do I think you need to do your research. You have also voiced that you don't like how we Atheists supposedly believe that "faith in Christ signifies lack in intelligence", but I have never heard an Atheist speak with that conviction. I also feel it is hypocritical for you to say this, seeing as you have already stated that intelligent design is "truth" to you, and belief in Intelligent Design usually does signify a lack of intelligence in the fields of logic, science, and general knowledge. Most Christians now accept Evolution, and so if Atheists did feel that Christianity meant a person had low intelligence, it would be Christians like you who still believe in ridiculous concepts like Intelligent Design that are to blame letting the rest of the world's Christians down, not us letting our beliefs down, because you are the one that believes in the invalid concept, not us. Francesca, if you seriously think you have the best arguments in the world then you are sadly mistaken. None of your arguments are based on logic or evidence, and at least one of your answers is completely wrong. You're answers are so off-the-mark that I can't tell whether you are being honest or joking.

You have described Intelligent Design as "Truth", and yet intelligent design has been proven wrong undoubtedly, so you can neither claim to have the best argument in the world or a good knowledge of science. If you seriously think as you do I think you need to do your research.

You have also voiced that you don't like how we Atheists supposedly believe that "faith in Christ signifies lack in intelligence", but I have never heard an Atheist speak with that conviction. I also feel it is hypocritical for you to say this, seeing as you have already stated that intelligent design is "truth" to you, and belief in Intelligent Design usually does signify a lack of intelligence in the fields of logic, science, and general knowledge.

Most Christians now accept Evolution, and so if Atheists did feel that Christianity meant a person had low intelligence, it would be Christians like you who still believe in ridiculous concepts like Intelligent Design that are to blame letting the rest of the world's Christians down, not us letting our beliefs down, because you are the one that believes in the invalid concept, not us.

]]> By: Saul Burbridge http://atheistblogger.com/2008/06/24/a-fundamentalist-christian-answers-the-atheist-thirteen/comment-page-1/#comment-5831 Saul Burbridge Sat, 15 Aug 2009 11:01:24 +0000 http://atheistblogger.com/?p=131#comment-5831 Francesca, if you seriously think you have the best arguments in the world then you are sadly mistaken. None of your arguments are based on logic or evidence, and at least one of your answers is completely wrong. You're answers are so off-the-mark that I can't tell whether you are being honest or joking. You have described Intelligent Design as "Truth", and yet intelligent design has been proven wrong undoubtedly, so you can neither claim to have the best argument in the world or a good knowledge of science. If you seriously think as you do I think you need to do your research. You have also voiced that you don't like how we Atheists supposedly believe that "faith in Christ signifies lack in intelligence", but I have never heard an Atheist speak with that conviction. I also feel it is hypocritical for you to say this, seeing as you have already stated that intelligent design is "truth" to you, and belief in Intelligent Design usually does signify a lack of intelligence in the fields of logic, science, and general knowledge. Francesca, if you seriously think you have the best arguments in the world then you are sadly mistaken. None of your arguments are based on logic or evidence, and at least one of your answers is completely wrong. You're answers are so off-the-mark that I can't tell whether you are being honest or joking.

You have described Intelligent Design as "Truth", and yet intelligent design has been proven wrong undoubtedly, so you can neither claim to have the best argument in the world or a good knowledge of science. If you seriously think as you do I think you need to do your research.

You have also voiced that you don't like how we Atheists supposedly believe that "faith in Christ signifies lack in intelligence", but I have never heard an Atheist speak with that conviction. I also feel it is hypocritical for you to say this, seeing as you have already stated that intelligent design is "truth" to you, and belief in Intelligent Design usually does signify a lack of intelligence in the fields of logic, science, and general knowledge.

]]> By: Saul Burbridge http://atheistblogger.com/2008/06/24/a-fundamentalist-christian-answers-the-atheist-thirteen/comment-page-1/#comment-5826 Saul Burbridge Sat, 15 Aug 2009 10:50:06 +0000 http://atheistblogger.com/?p=131#comment-5826 Scott, in what way is it possible to view "Intelligent Design", a theory which has been proven to be scientifically erroneous, "logical"? If you so want to convert people to Christianity because you are so sure you are correct, despite the lack of evidence to support your position, then surely you should stick with parts of the bible which have yet to be proven or disproven, rather than actually mentioning that you believe in intelligent design which is false. No one with any scientific knowledge will believe you are a proponent of the truth if one of your claims is completely false. Scott, in what way is it possible to view "Intelligent Design", a theory which has been proven to be scientifically erroneous, "logical"?

If you so want to convert people to Christianity because you are so sure you are correct, despite the lack of evidence to support your position, then surely you should stick with parts of the bible which have yet to be proven or disproven, rather than actually mentioning that you believe in intelligent design which is false. No one with any scientific knowledge will believe you are a proponent of the truth if one of your claims is completely false.

]]> By: Saul Burbridge http://atheistblogger.com/2008/06/24/a-fundamentalist-christian-answers-the-atheist-thirteen/comment-page-1/#comment-5778 Saul Burbridge Wed, 12 Aug 2009 12:53:26 +0000 http://atheistblogger.com/?p=131#comment-5778 What you don't seem to grasp is that this is not "stereotypical mockery of any Theists" at all, this is about fundamentalists...and "yes" most fundamentalists do consider Atheism to be Satanic. You're right that most Christians don't think like that, but you've misinterpreted what this whole page is about in order to come to the conclusion that this is directed at most Christians. As for saying that "most (Christians) aren't retarded", well, as I have pointed out, this is aimed at fundies (who do think like that) not Christians as a whole, and so no one is saying that Christians are retarded. What you don't seem to grasp is that this is not "stereotypical mockery of any Theists" at all, this is about fundamentalists…and "yes" most fundamentalists do consider Atheism to be Satanic.

You're right that most Christians don't think like that, but you've misinterpreted what this whole page is about in order to come to the conclusion that this is directed at most Christians.

As for saying that "most (Christians) aren't retarded", well, as I have pointed out, this is aimed at fundies (who do think like that) not Christians as a whole, and so no one is saying that Christians are retarded.

]]> By: Saul Burbridge http://atheistblogger.com/2008/06/24/a-fundamentalist-christian-answers-the-atheist-thirteen/comment-page-1/#comment-5777 Saul Burbridge Wed, 12 Aug 2009 12:44:47 +0000 http://atheistblogger.com/?p=131#comment-5777 DaveS, although it is good to see that you as a Theist do not honestly answer the questions in the way assumed in the post, the real reason that your "honest" answers differ from the "dishonest" ones is because, as you have stated yourself, you are not a fundamentalist, and the answers posted by Adrian are supposed to be from the point of view of a fundamentalist. I know many fundamentalists, and although you are closer to them than Adrian is in terms of beliefs, their answers would in fact be more like the ones Adrian has posted, so there is some honesty to his post. DaveS, although it is good to see that you as a Theist do not honestly answer the questions in the way assumed in the post, the real reason that your "honest" answers differ from the "dishonest" ones is because, as you have stated yourself, you are not a fundamentalist, and the answers posted by Adrian are supposed to be from the point of view of a fundamentalist.

I know many fundamentalists, and although you are closer to them than Adrian is in terms of beliefs, their answers would in fact be more like the ones Adrian has posted, so there is some honesty to his post.

]]> By: Joe bigliogo http://atheistblogger.com/2008/06/24/a-fundamentalist-christian-answers-the-atheist-thirteen/comment-page-1/#comment-5727 Joe bigliogo Tue, 04 Aug 2009 17:42:26 +0000 http://atheistblogger.com/?p=131#comment-5727 Fundamentalists like this who reside in the extreme lunatic fringe of the Christian movement do more to de-convert Christians and create atheists than the best atheist arguments ever could. To speak like an irrational, credulous, closed minded, mental retard is the worst way to win people over. Fundamentalists like this who reside in the extreme lunatic fringe of the Christian movement do more to de-convert Christians and create atheists than the best atheist arguments ever could.
To speak like an irrational, credulous, closed minded, mental retard is the worst way to win people over.

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