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		<title>By: Ivory Power &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Atheist opportunists</title>
		<link>http://atheistblogger.com/2008/08/02/why-i-left-atheist-nexus/comment-page-1/#comment-4144</link>
		<dc:creator>Ivory Power &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Atheist opportunists</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 07:49:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I love when people talk about donations and &#8220;internet fees&#8221;. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I love when people talk about donations and &#8220;internet fees&#8221;. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Chad</title>
		<link>http://atheistblogger.com/2008/08/02/why-i-left-atheist-nexus/comment-page-1/#comment-3979</link>
		<dc:creator>Chad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 01:19:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm ready to leave after 24 hours. Some dickhead Aussie started shit with me, so I fought back ten times harder. I actually like the Website, but every time I speak my mind, I get fucked with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m ready to leave after 24 hours. Some dickhead Aussie started shit with me, so I fought back ten times harder. I actually like the Website, but every time I speak my mind, I get fucked with.</p>
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		<title>By: Adrian Hayter</title>
		<link>http://atheistblogger.com/2008/08/02/why-i-left-atheist-nexus/comment-page-1/#comment-3349</link>
		<dc:creator>Adrian Hayter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 08:03:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alex,

You mean this one?

http://atheistblogger.com/2008/08/05/the-atheist-nexus-explanation/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alex,</p>
<p>You mean this one?</p>
<p><a href="http://atheistblogger.com/2008/08/05/the-atheist-nexus-explanation/" rel="nofollow">http://atheistblogger.com/2008/08/05/the-atheist-nexus-explanation/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://atheistblogger.com/2008/08/02/why-i-left-atheist-nexus/comment-page-1/#comment-3345</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 04:48:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Only useful if you include the follow-up post where Adrian says he was wrong.

He is now a member of Atheist Nexus again. He really should state that in another article. Kinda not fair.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only useful if you include the follow-up post where Adrian says he was wrong.</p>
<p>He is now a member of Atheist Nexus again. He really should state that in another article. Kinda not fair.</p>
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		<title>By: funnygirl</title>
		<link>http://atheistblogger.com/2008/08/02/why-i-left-atheist-nexus/comment-page-1/#comment-2980</link>
		<dc:creator>funnygirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 13:07:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>great, usefull 0_0</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>great, usefull 0_0</p>
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		<title>By: Atheist Revolution</title>
		<link>http://atheistblogger.com/2008/08/02/why-i-left-atheist-nexus/comment-page-1/#comment-2975</link>
		<dc:creator>Atheist Revolution</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 10:34:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Lingering Controversy at Atheist Nexus...&lt;/strong&gt;

I have been heavily promoting Atheist Nexus here since it first appeared. This may lead you to believe that I am biased in its favor and inclined to ignore the controversy which has surrounded it from the beginning and recent developments which have .....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Lingering Controversy at Atheist Nexus&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>I have been heavily promoting Atheist Nexus here since it first appeared. This may lead you to believe that I am biased in its favor and inclined to ignore the controversy which has surrounded it from the beginning and recent developments which have &#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: ronin</title>
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		<dc:creator>ronin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 14:24:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stephanie, 

The IRS angle was brought up again here at Adrian's place *only* in response to Grumpy Joe.  

It is very important to note that I have also already accepted the explanation once it was resolved.

That is a very important nuance that you have missed.

The hyperbole is unnecessary to make your point and no one was crucified at Atheist Nexus no matter how hard people try to sell and belabor the claim.

Again, it was obvious that there was a problem, Stephanie…there is no doubt that it needed resolution.

No conspiracy theory was offered, simply concerns and those have been addressed.

I was never dishonest about anything.

I did call the IRS (twice as a matter of fact) and they were unable to locate any further request by Atheist Nexus to obtain non-profit status.  

They (and I) did offer the caveat that it may have been due to a record keeping process, however, since that time it has been disclosed that in spite of Kym’s claims that there was IRS status…there was not.

Any reasonable observer would recognize that was a problem and for legitimate reasons I have already stated.
  
What is dubious is your quote-mining something out of the context of time and presenting it here as if it were fact, when it is not.

The sales pitches have morphed over time and that is not necessarily a bad thing in marketing concepts.  By the way, I was actively *banned* from Atheist Nexus and I had purposely left my membership open because of the Ning feature that dumps heartfelt time and effort otherwise.  
 
As I already said, there are plenty of places for atheists to find community.  My view *now* is that there has been far too much angst and questionable practices for me to remain interested in Brother Richard’s brand.

You may disagree and that is a good thing.
  
Thanks for your appreciation of the On Faith article by the way.  

Such efforts have been a tireless effort of mine.  

The way I handled my self on Atheist Nexus is consistent with how I live my life in general.  I am first skeptical and then I inquire and investigate further to resolve certain issues.  It isn’t a perfect method, but it is an honest one I assure you, Stephanie.

If it is any consolation, I have also been critical of Rational Responders and other sites (not necessarily atheist centered) for many of the same reasons.

I am very glad you have found a home and it is my hope that you are diligent, caring and compassionate about all that you do there.

My personal best of respect to you!

Take care,
Steve</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stephanie, </p>
<p>The IRS angle was brought up again here at Adrian&#8217;s place *only* in response to Grumpy Joe.  </p>
<p>It is very important to note that I have also already accepted the explanation once it was resolved.</p>
<p>That is a very important nuance that you have missed.</p>
<p>The hyperbole is unnecessary to make your point and no one was crucified at Atheist Nexus no matter how hard people try to sell and belabor the claim.</p>
<p>Again, it was obvious that there was a problem, Stephanie…there is no doubt that it needed resolution.</p>
<p>No conspiracy theory was offered, simply concerns and those have been addressed.</p>
<p>I was never dishonest about anything.</p>
<p>I did call the IRS (twice as a matter of fact) and they were unable to locate any further request by Atheist Nexus to obtain non-profit status.  </p>
<p>They (and I) did offer the caveat that it may have been due to a record keeping process, however, since that time it has been disclosed that in spite of Kym’s claims that there was IRS status…there was not.</p>
<p>Any reasonable observer would recognize that was a problem and for legitimate reasons I have already stated.</p>
<p>What is dubious is your quote-mining something out of the context of time and presenting it here as if it were fact, when it is not.</p>
<p>The sales pitches have morphed over time and that is not necessarily a bad thing in marketing concepts.  By the way, I was actively *banned* from Atheist Nexus and I had purposely left my membership open because of the Ning feature that dumps heartfelt time and effort otherwise.  </p>
<p>As I already said, there are plenty of places for atheists to find community.  My view *now* is that there has been far too much angst and questionable practices for me to remain interested in Brother Richard’s brand.</p>
<p>You may disagree and that is a good thing.</p>
<p>Thanks for your appreciation of the On Faith article by the way.  </p>
<p>Such efforts have been a tireless effort of mine.  </p>
<p>The way I handled my self on Atheist Nexus is consistent with how I live my life in general.  I am first skeptical and then I inquire and investigate further to resolve certain issues.  It isn’t a perfect method, but it is an honest one I assure you, Stephanie.</p>
<p>If it is any consolation, I have also been critical of Rational Responders and other sites (not necessarily atheist centered) for many of the same reasons.</p>
<p>I am very glad you have found a home and it is my hope that you are diligent, caring and compassionate about all that you do there.</p>
<p>My personal best of respect to you!</p>
<p>Take care,<br />
Steve</p>
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		<title>By: Stella</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 13:07:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm troubled by the two issues that Ronin raises here:

 "Furthermore, we have learned that the forum is not a democracy and that it is supported on the Ning platform which has no archiving feature so that once a member is banned,or by their own hand takes steps through Ning to remove themselves as members, every thread they started and every sub-comment posted…is deleted permanently.

All discussion and exchanges and expression of friendship, concepts and ideas are dumped into the memory hole.

Knowing this, I did not take any steps to remove my registration at Atheist Nexus and was actively banned from the site by the operator who knew the results of such an action.

This potential exists for every single member and every single thread carefully crafted and fueled by their time and effort.

In my view, that is an abhorrent standard to promote anywhere."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m troubled by the two issues that Ronin raises here:</p>
<p> &#8220;Furthermore, we have learned that the forum is not a democracy and that it is supported on the Ning platform which has no archiving feature so that once a member is banned,or by their own hand takes steps through Ning to remove themselves as members, every thread they started and every sub-comment posted…is deleted permanently.</p>
<p>All discussion and exchanges and expression of friendship, concepts and ideas are dumped into the memory hole.</p>
<p>Knowing this, I did not take any steps to remove my registration at Atheist Nexus and was actively banned from the site by the operator who knew the results of such an action.</p>
<p>This potential exists for every single member and every single thread carefully crafted and fueled by their time and effort.</p>
<p>In my view, that is an abhorrent standard to promote anywhere.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Atheist Nexus Brouhaha &#187; A Division by Zer0</title>
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		<dc:creator>Atheist Nexus Brouhaha &#187; A Division by Zer0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 09:06:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] think Vjack put it best: Frankly, those who seem determined to stick their heads in the sand bother me more than those [...]</description>
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		<title>By: The Atheist Nexus Explanation - The Atheist Blogger</title>
		<link>http://atheistblogger.com/2008/08/02/why-i-left-atheist-nexus/comment-page-1/#comment-2950</link>
		<dc:creator>The Atheist Nexus Explanation - The Atheist Blogger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 01:13:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] new here, you may want to subscribe to my RSS feed. Thanks for visiting!I previously wrote about why I left Atheist Nexus, for reasons that I believed saw the site turning into a more commercial business than a friendly [...]</description>
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