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		<title>By: Fredwina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fredwina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Dec 2008 12:44:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m straight, but I support gay rights.  I&#039;m not married, but I support anybody&#039;s right to consenting adult marriage.  All of this debate over the definition of marriage, separation of church and state, and other peripheral arguments brings to mind the George Orwell quote from the book, Animal Farm. 
 
Some animals are more equal than others. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;m straight, but I support gay rights.  I&#039;m not married, but I support anybody&#039;s right to consenting adult marriage.  All of this debate over the definition of marriage, separation of church and state, and other peripheral arguments brings to mind the George Orwell quote from the book, Animal Farm. </p>
<p>Some animals are more equal than others.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Davis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 13:43:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A little something for those - like Dachau Barbie - trying with difficulty to maintain divinely-mandated ethical standards that oblige them to be nasty to queers, even though they wuv them, really:

&lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLLNZ2Vnt7U" rel="nofollow"&gt;The MoralMaster 2.0&lt;/a&gt;

After all, heaven forbid you might do something Scripture says is immoral, no matter how rational or civilised it might seem.

CD</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A little something for those - like Dachau Barbie - trying with difficulty to maintain divinely-mandated ethical standards that oblige them to be nasty to queers, even though they wuv them, really:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLLNZ2Vnt7U" rel="nofollow">The MoralMaster 2.0</a></p>
<p>After all, heaven forbid you might do something Scripture says is immoral, no matter how rational or civilised it might seem.</p>
<p>CD</p>
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		<title>By: Jake Collyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jake Collyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 22:08:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That part about the Greeks is a good point. In many writings and myths of Greek culture you can see how many are said to love other men and ect. I just don't understand the big deal. Also if I remember right, within the Bible there is maybe one reference that is taken out of context and then warped. Oh I love jow religion brought us such great times as the Inquisition and the Dark Ages.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That part about the Greeks is a good point. In many writings and myths of Greek culture you can see how many are said to love other men and ect. I just don&#8217;t understand the big deal. Also if I remember right, within the Bible there is maybe one reference that is taken out of context and then warped. Oh I love jow religion brought us such great times as the Inquisition and the Dark Ages.</p>
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		<title>By: Darlanne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darlanne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 20:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh please ... Just because I have attempted to treat you with some fairness and kindess in previous comments does not mean I'm some wilting flower. But you just take that credit if it makes yer day. ;)

If you don't tolerate intolerance then how can you look at yourself in the mirror? How can you claim to be tolerant? Tolerance is being accepting and respectful of others and what they believe. Your angry words contradict that statement. OR is it that you insist on tolerance for your beliefs but don't see a need to follow that same rule?

You'll take credit for my own words but not your own. Of course you would, because they were allegedly "spiteful" and that seems to be your kick.

&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;"Unfortunately for your thesis, the odds are stupefyingly high that it would turn out to be an hallucination brought on by substance abuse. It wouldn't be the first time."

"So - you demand tolerance of me. Tolerance, in point of fact, for someone else's beliefs - though I'm sure you're on all fours with Sue, sharing as you do the same delusion." &lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;

That ain't tolerance dude. That's called mocking.

&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;"You ask me to tolerate … Sue and your INTOLERANCE of others"&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;

That's almost laughable. I don't know Sue so I can't speak for her ... but there is nothing intolerant with how I conduct my life. Other than having a problem with intolerant peeps themselves.

Live and let live. 

And you pretty much summed up my point with that last comment. Good job! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh please &#8230; Just because I have attempted to treat you with some fairness and kindess in previous comments does not mean I&#8217;m some wilting flower. But you just take that credit if it makes yer day. ;)</p>
<p>If you don&#8217;t tolerate intolerance then how can you look at yourself in the mirror? How can you claim to be tolerant? Tolerance is being accepting and respectful of others and what they believe. Your angry words contradict that statement. OR is it that you insist on tolerance for your beliefs but don&#8217;t see a need to follow that same rule?</p>
<p>You&#8217;ll take credit for my own words but not your own. Of course you would, because they were allegedly &#8220;spiteful&#8221; and that seems to be your kick.</p>
<p><b><i>&#8220;Unfortunately for your thesis, the odds are stupefyingly high that it would turn out to be an hallucination brought on by substance abuse. It wouldn&#8217;t be the first time.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;So - you demand tolerance of me. Tolerance, in point of fact, for someone else&#8217;s beliefs - though I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;re on all fours with Sue, sharing as you do the same delusion.&#8221; </i></b></p>
<p>That ain&#8217;t tolerance dude. That&#8217;s called mocking.</p>
<p><b><i>&#8220;You ask me to tolerate … Sue and your INTOLERANCE of others&#8221;</i></b></p>
<p>That&#8217;s almost laughable. I don&#8217;t know Sue so I can&#8217;t speak for her &#8230; but there is nothing intolerant with how I conduct my life. Other than having a problem with intolerant peeps themselves.</p>
<p>Live and let live. </p>
<p>And you pretty much summed up my point with that last comment. Good job! :)</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Davis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 15:28:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, stap me vitals, it's Dachau Barbie! Well done you for growing some testicles - it's nice to hear you actually express your spite directly for once. I think I'll take some credit for that, whether you like it or not.

&lt;blockquote&gt;"I'm pretty sure if God Himself came down right now and said hey Chris, I'm REAL, you'd turn your eyes away and deny it."&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Which is where you're &lt;em&gt;PRECISELY&lt;/em&gt; wrong. I'm a keen student of truth, evidence and the scientific method, and if such an event were to occur I would without hesitation conclude that - despite the overwhelming evidence against it - an outside context event had occurred. I would try at once to discover the explanation.

Unfortunately for your thesis, the odds are stupefyingly high that it would turn out to be an hallucination brought on by substance abuse. It wouldn't be the first time.

So - you demand tolerance of me. Tolerance, in point of fact, for someone else's beliefs - though I'm sure you're on all fours with Sue, sharing as you do the same delusion. You ask me to tolerate … &lt;i&gt;Sue and your &lt;b&gt;INTOLERANCE&lt;/b&gt; of others&lt;/i&gt;.

And you do this, hiding behind your protestation that the intolerance here is God's, not yours. You &lt;i&gt;LOOVE&lt;/i&gt; pooves - can't get enough of them. But God, you maintain, is a bit of a homophobe, despite being the entity responsible for their very existence.

No, actually. I don't tolerate intolerance, especially nasty, scheming, vindictive, conniving intolerance tricked out in pompous, righteous livery like yours.

There was a line in a film: 'Kiss my ENTIRE ass'. I believe it applies here.

CD</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, stap me vitals, it&#8217;s Dachau Barbie! Well done you for growing some testicles - it&#8217;s nice to hear you actually express your spite directly for once. I think I&#8217;ll take some credit for that, whether you like it or not.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;I&#8217;m pretty sure if God Himself came down right now and said hey Chris, I&#8217;m REAL, you&#8217;d turn your eyes away and deny it.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Which is where you&#8217;re <em>PRECISELY</em> wrong. I&#8217;m a keen student of truth, evidence and the scientific method, and if such an event were to occur I would without hesitation conclude that - despite the overwhelming evidence against it - an outside context event had occurred. I would try at once to discover the explanation.</p>
<p>Unfortunately for your thesis, the odds are stupefyingly high that it would turn out to be an hallucination brought on by substance abuse. It wouldn&#8217;t be the first time.</p>
<p>So - you demand tolerance of me. Tolerance, in point of fact, for someone else&#8217;s beliefs - though I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;re on all fours with Sue, sharing as you do the same delusion. You ask me to tolerate … <i>Sue and your <b>INTOLERANCE</b> of others</i>.</p>
<p>And you do this, hiding behind your protestation that the intolerance here is God&#8217;s, not yours. You <i>LOOVE</i> pooves - can&#8217;t get enough of them. But God, you maintain, is a bit of a homophobe, despite being the entity responsible for their very existence.</p>
<p>No, actually. I don&#8217;t tolerate intolerance, especially nasty, scheming, vindictive, conniving intolerance tricked out in pompous, righteous livery like yours.</p>
<p>There was a line in a film: &#8216;Kiss my ENTIRE ass&#8217;. I believe it applies here.</p>
<p>CD</p>
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		<title>By: Darlanne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darlanne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 11:49:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href="http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/bigotry" rel="nofollow"&gt;Definition of bigotry:&lt;/a&gt;
1.  stubborn and complete intolerance of any creed, belief, or opinion that differs from one's own.&lt;/b&gt;

Look in the mirror lately Chris? Because that's also you. And not just intolerance but downright hate. You say that I believe anything is true by default and yet I'm pretty sure if God Himself came down right now and said hey Chris, I'm REAL, you'd turn your eyes away and deny it. It's fine if you don't want to believe in God, or can't, or find it absurd, whatever suits your life and heart. But the only "ghastly" attitude I've seen here in these comments is yours. You are NO different than those you set out to tear down and despise. It's sad really because no matter what, we all have to live in this world together, regardless of what comes after. Negativity breeds negativity and nothing else. Nothing good, nothing productive. It breaks down any real true communication as to how two sides with opposing beliefs can make any real progress as to making this a better world.

Not one single time did I tear you down for you not believing as I do. And Sue was expressing her own beliefs and I thought she did that without being "disgusting" as you called her. She believes it's wrong in the eyes of God. YOU don't accept that and yet you demand with a lot of ugliness that everybody put down their bibles and not believe. I don't know how you don't see the hypocrisy in that. 

As for the topic of this post ... I live in California. I'm a Christian. Guess what? I didn't VOTE. And why? Because while I stand by my faith for my own life, I also don't believe I should impose it on others who do not believe as I do. Therefore, I felt it was the right thing to do, to not vote on the matter. Whereas, I've no doubt that if we had a proposition come out this next election that involved anything anti-Christian, you'd have voted yes all over. And that's just as wrong.

These are the types of attitudes that demand tolerance and acceptance but give NONE. Nothing gets solved that way but two constant lines drawn in the sand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><a href="http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/bigotry" rel="nofollow">Definition of bigotry:</a><br />
1.  stubborn and complete intolerance of any creed, belief, or opinion that differs from one&#8217;s own.</b></p>
<p>Look in the mirror lately Chris? Because that&#8217;s also you. And not just intolerance but downright hate. You say that I believe anything is true by default and yet I&#8217;m pretty sure if God Himself came down right now and said hey Chris, I&#8217;m REAL, you&#8217;d turn your eyes away and deny it. It&#8217;s fine if you don&#8217;t want to believe in God, or can&#8217;t, or find it absurd, whatever suits your life and heart. But the only &#8220;ghastly&#8221; attitude I&#8217;ve seen here in these comments is yours. You are NO different than those you set out to tear down and despise. It&#8217;s sad really because no matter what, we all have to live in this world together, regardless of what comes after. Negativity breeds negativity and nothing else. Nothing good, nothing productive. It breaks down any real true communication as to how two sides with opposing beliefs can make any real progress as to making this a better world.</p>
<p>Not one single time did I tear you down for you not believing as I do. And Sue was expressing her own beliefs and I thought she did that without being &#8220;disgusting&#8221; as you called her. She believes it&#8217;s wrong in the eyes of God. YOU don&#8217;t accept that and yet you demand with a lot of ugliness that everybody put down their bibles and not believe. I don&#8217;t know how you don&#8217;t see the hypocrisy in that. </p>
<p>As for the topic of this post &#8230; I live in California. I&#8217;m a Christian. Guess what? I didn&#8217;t VOTE. And why? Because while I stand by my faith for my own life, I also don&#8217;t believe I should impose it on others who do not believe as I do. Therefore, I felt it was the right thing to do, to not vote on the matter. Whereas, I&#8217;ve no doubt that if we had a proposition come out this next election that involved anything anti-Christian, you&#8217;d have voted yes all over. And that&#8217;s just as wrong.</p>
<p>These are the types of attitudes that demand tolerance and acceptance but give NONE. Nothing gets solved that way but two constant lines drawn in the sand.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Davis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 10:50:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That's right, Sue! So you be sure and stone those li'l tykes to death if you catch them working on the Sabbath. Or eating shellfish. Or wearing clothing of mixed threads. Or cutting their beards.

Or is it just the parts of the 'word of God' that hapopen to match your own disgusting bigotry that you uphold?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s right, Sue! So you be sure and stone those li&#8217;l tykes to death if you catch them working on the Sabbath. Or eating shellfish. Or wearing clothing of mixed threads. Or cutting their beards.</p>
<p>Or is it just the parts of the &#8216;word of God&#8217; that hapopen to match your own disgusting bigotry that you uphold?</p>
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		<title>By: Sue</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 03:31:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have two gay son's I love and restpect them in their relationships.we are all a family. But Gay marriage is wrong in the eyes of God. they have had civil union's in their like commitements.
But they realize God made marriage for a man and a woman. they agreeand are happy living their life. why try to fight over what the people have spoken on. we don't want it.
  I want my son's treatrd fairley. But not to go againest God word.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have two gay son&#8217;s I love and restpect them in their relationships.we are all a family. But Gay marriage is wrong in the eyes of God. they have had civil union&#8217;s in their like commitements.<br />
But they realize God made marriage for a man and a woman. they agreeand are happy living their life. why try to fight over what the people have spoken on. we don&#8217;t want it.<br />
  I want my son&#8217;s treatrd fairley. But not to go againest God word.</p>
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		<title>By: Adrian Hayter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adrian Hayter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 19:25:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Bill

#1 is not an argument.
#2 is not backed up by anything.
#3 is not even supported by biology...not just because gay people cannot have children with each other, but because upbringing has no effect on sexuality.</description>
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<p>#1 is not an argument.<br />
#2 is not backed up by anything.<br />
#3 is not even supported by biology&#8230;not just because gay people cannot have children with each other, but because upbringing has no effect on sexuality.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 19:02:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am so tired of this.  I have considered all the repercussions of this "Gay Marriage" issue and have come to the conclusion that nobody "gets it".  Below are three arguments AGAINST gay marriage that are more intelligent and clearer than others.  Go and read all of the con arguments that you can find and then read the following arguments against Gay Marriage and I think you will agree that my arguments are at least as intelligent if not more intelligent than any being proffered by anyone else:

#1.  Because.
#2.  God said "no".  He talks to me.  I know.  (send money)
#3.  If gays can marry each other, they'll be have gay children who will have gay marriages and more gay kids and pretty soon, ungays will be in the minority and then it might be our marriages that are a sin in the eyes of god (It is a sin.  He talks to me.  I know.) and a moral travesty capable of destroying the very fabric of society. 
b</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am so tired of this.  I have considered all the repercussions of this &#8220;Gay Marriage&#8221; issue and have come to the conclusion that nobody &#8220;gets it&#8221;.  Below are three arguments AGAINST gay marriage that are more intelligent and clearer than others.  Go and read all of the con arguments that you can find and then read the following arguments against Gay Marriage and I think you will agree that my arguments are at least as intelligent if not more intelligent than any being proffered by anyone else:</p>
<p>#1.  Because.<br />
#2.  God said &#8220;no&#8221;.  He talks to me.  I know.  (send money)<br />
#3.  If gays can marry each other, they&#8217;ll be have gay children who will have gay marriages and more gay kids and pretty soon, ungays will be in the minority and then it might be our marriages that are a sin in the eyes of god (It is a sin.  He talks to me.  I know.) and a moral travesty capable of destroying the very fabric of society.<br />
b</p>
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