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		<title>By: Qazi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Qazi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 07:46:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>COME! LET&#8217;S CHANGE THE WOR(L)D TOGETHER! 
The Truth About the Talmud 
Let&#8217;s Remove Blasphemy Against Jesus And Mary  
And Hatred For Gentiles* (Non-Jews) From Talmud 
*The Rest of Humanity 
A Documented Expos&#233; of Supremacist Rabbinic Hate Literature 
By Warrant of John 18:37, Galatians 4:16 
Copyright &#169;2000-2006 by Michael A. Hoffman II All Rights Reserved 
Introduction 
The Talmud is Judaism&#039;s holiest book (actually a collection of books). Its authority takes precedence over the Old Testament in Judaism. Evidence of this may be found in the Talmud itself, Erubin 21b (Soncino edition): &#34;My son, be more careful in the observance of the words of the Scribes than in the words of the Torah (Old Testament).&#34; 
The supremacy of the Talmud over the Bible in the Israeli state may also be seen in the case of the black Ethiopian Jews. Ethiopians are very knowledgeable of the Old Testament. However, their religion is so ancient it pre-dates the Scribes&#039; Talmud, of which the Ethiopians have no knowledge. According to the N.Y. Times of Sept. 29, 1992, p.4: 
&#34;The problem is that Ethiopian Jewish tradition goes no further than the Bible or Torah; the later Talmud and other commentaries that form the basis of modern traditions never came their way.&#34; 
Because they are not traffickers in Talmudic tradition, the black Ethiopian Jews are discriminated against and have been forbidden by the Zionists to perform marriages, funerals and other services in the Israeli state. 
Rabbi Joseph D. Soloveitchik is regarded as one of the most influential rabbis of the 20th century, the &#34;unchallenged leader&#34; of Orthodox Judaism and the top international authority on halakha (Jewish religious law). Soloveitchik was responsible for instructing and ordaining more than 2,000 rabbis, &#34;an entire generation&#34; of Jewish leadership. 
N.Y. Times religion reporter Ari Goldman described the basis of the rabbi&#039;s authority: 
&#34;Soloveitchik came from a long line of distinguished Talmudic scholars...Until his early 20s, he devoted himself almost exclusively to the study of the Talmud...He came to Yeshiva University&#039;s Elchanan Theological Seminary where he remained the pre-eminent teacher in the Talmud...He held the title of Leib Merkin professor of Talmud...sitting with his feet crossed in front of a table bearing an open volume of the Talmud.&#34; (N.Y. Times, April 10, 1993, p. 38). 
Nowhere does Goldman refer to Soloveitchik&#039;s knowledge of the Bible as the basis for being one of the leading authorities on Jewish law. 
The rabbi&#039;s credentials are all predicated upon his mastery of the Talmud. Other studies are clearly secondary. Britain&#039;s Jewish Chronicle of March 26, 1993 states that in religious school (yeshiva), Jews are &#34;devoted to the Talmud to the exclusion of everything else.&#34; 
The Talmud Nullifies the Bible 
The Jewish Scribes claim the Talmud is partly a collection of traditions Moses gave them in oral form. These had not yet been written down in Jesus&#039; time. Christ condemned the traditions of the Mishnah (early Talmud) and those who taught it (Scribes and Pharisees), because the Talmud nullifies the teachings of the Holy Bible. 
Shmuel Safrai in The Literature of the Sages Part One (p.164), points out that in chapters 4 and 5 of the Talmud&#039;s Gittin Tractate, the Talmud nullifies the Biblical teaching concerning money-lending: &#34;Hillel decreed the prozbul for the betterment of the world. The prozbul is a legal fiction which allows debts to be collected after the Sabbatical year and it was Hillel&#039;s intention thereby to overcome the fear that money-lenders had of losing their money.&#34; 
The famous warning of Jesus Christ about the tradition of men that voids Scripture (Mark 7:1-13), is in fact, a direct reference to the Talmud, or more specifically, the forerunner of the first part of it, the Mishnah, which existed in oral form during Christ&#039;s lifetime, before being committed to writing. Mark chapter 7, from verse one through thirteen, represents Our Lord&#039;s pointed condemnation of the Mishnah. 
 
 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>COME! LET&rsquo;S CHANGE THE WOR(L)D TOGETHER!<br />
The Truth About the Talmud<br />
Let&rsquo;s Remove Blasphemy Against Jesus And Mary<br />
And Hatred For Gentiles* (Non-Jews) From Talmud<br />
*The Rest of Humanity<br />
A Documented Expos&eacute; of Supremacist Rabbinic Hate Literature<br />
By Warrant of John 18:37, Galatians 4:16<br />
Copyright &copy;2000-2006 by Michael A. Hoffman II All Rights Reserved<br />
Introduction<br />
The Talmud is Judaism&#039;s holiest book (actually a collection of books). Its authority takes precedence over the Old Testament in Judaism. Evidence of this may be found in the Talmud itself, Erubin 21b (Soncino edition): &quot;My son, be more careful in the observance of the words of the Scribes than in the words of the Torah (Old Testament).&quot;<br />
The supremacy of the Talmud over the Bible in the Israeli state may also be seen in the case of the black Ethiopian Jews. Ethiopians are very knowledgeable of the Old Testament. However, their religion is so ancient it pre-dates the Scribes&#039; Talmud, of which the Ethiopians have no knowledge. According to the N.Y. Times of Sept. 29, 1992, p.4:<br />
&quot;The problem is that Ethiopian Jewish tradition goes no further than the Bible or Torah; the later Talmud and other commentaries that form the basis of modern traditions never came their way.&quot;<br />
Because they are not traffickers in Talmudic tradition, the black Ethiopian Jews are discriminated against and have been forbidden by the Zionists to perform marriages, funerals and other services in the Israeli state.<br />
Rabbi Joseph D. Soloveitchik is regarded as one of the most influential rabbis of the 20th century, the &quot;unchallenged leader&quot; of Orthodox Judaism and the top international authority on halakha (Jewish religious law). Soloveitchik was responsible for instructing and ordaining more than 2,000 rabbis, &quot;an entire generation&quot; of Jewish leadership.<br />
N.Y. Times religion reporter Ari Goldman described the basis of the rabbi&#039;s authority:<br />
&quot;Soloveitchik came from a long line of distinguished Talmudic scholars&#8230;Until his early 20s, he devoted himself almost exclusively to the study of the Talmud&#8230;He came to Yeshiva University&#039;s Elchanan Theological Seminary where he remained the pre-eminent teacher in the Talmud&#8230;He held the title of Leib Merkin professor of Talmud&#8230;sitting with his feet crossed in front of a table bearing an open volume of the Talmud.&quot; (N.Y. Times, April 10, 1993, p. 38).<br />
Nowhere does Goldman refer to Soloveitchik&#039;s knowledge of the Bible as the basis for being one of the leading authorities on Jewish law.<br />
The rabbi&#039;s credentials are all predicated upon his mastery of the Talmud. Other studies are clearly secondary. Britain&#039;s Jewish Chronicle of March 26, 1993 states that in religious school (yeshiva), Jews are &quot;devoted to the Talmud to the exclusion of everything else.&quot;<br />
The Talmud Nullifies the Bible<br />
The Jewish Scribes claim the Talmud is partly a collection of traditions Moses gave them in oral form. These had not yet been written down in Jesus&#039; time. Christ condemned the traditions of the Mishnah (early Talmud) and those who taught it (Scribes and Pharisees), because the Talmud nullifies the teachings of the Holy Bible.<br />
Shmuel Safrai in The Literature of the Sages Part One (p.164), points out that in chapters 4 and 5 of the Talmud&#039;s Gittin Tractate, the Talmud nullifies the Biblical teaching concerning money-lending: &quot;Hillel decreed the prozbul for the betterment of the world. The prozbul is a legal fiction which allows debts to be collected after the Sabbatical year and it was Hillel&#039;s intention thereby to overcome the fear that money-lenders had of losing their money.&quot;<br />
The famous warning of Jesus Christ about the tradition of men that voids Scripture (Mark 7:1-13), is in fact, a direct reference to the Talmud, or more specifically, the forerunner of the first part of it, the Mishnah, which existed in oral form during Christ&#039;s lifetime, before being committed to writing. Mark chapter 7, from verse one through thirteen, represents Our Lord&#039;s pointed condemnation of the Mishnah.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 06:41:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why in gods name would you allow 12th century legislation to be introduced into a 21st century democracy ? It is mindboggling crap. I wish I could sign this petition but as a Dane I cannot. Stand up for yourselves. You didnt create a democracy over the last millinia to just to have some religious whahbi ninnies revert you back to square one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why in gods name would you allow 12th century legislation to be introduced into a 21st century democracy ? It is mindboggling crap. I wish I could sign this petition but as a Dane I cannot. Stand up for yourselves. You didnt create a democracy over the last millinia to just to have some religious whahbi ninnies revert you back to square one.</p>
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		<title>By: Another Petition Against Saudi Britain - The Atheist Blogger</title>
		<link>http://atheistblogger.com/2008/09/20/petition-against-sharia-law-in-the-uk/comment-page-1/#comment-4194</link>
		<dc:creator>Another Petition Against Saudi Britain - The Atheist Blogger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 01:39:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] original government petition had a very short deadline, but it still managed to get 5,543 signatures in the short run it had. A [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] original government petition had a very short deadline, but it still managed to get 5,543 signatures in the short run it had. A [...]</p>
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		<title>By: nothing</title>
		<link>http://atheistblogger.com/2008/09/20/petition-against-sharia-law-in-the-uk/comment-page-1/#comment-3997</link>
		<dc:creator>nothing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 16:05:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very true and very sad. Unfortunately I think we're in the minority on this. 

Petition has been signed. 

Folks lets forward this to as many people as we possibly can, maybe some of them will wake up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very true and very sad. Unfortunately I think we&#8217;re in the minority on this. </p>
<p>Petition has been signed. </p>
<p>Folks lets forward this to as many people as we possibly can, maybe some of them will wake up.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Haas</title>
		<link>http://atheistblogger.com/2008/09/20/petition-against-sharia-law-in-the-uk/comment-page-1/#comment-3994</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Haas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 14:50:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sharia law is not being imposed in the UK. It is independent arbitration, and both parties have to agree to settle by arbitration, or the matter will go to the regular courts. In theory, at least, I see nothing wrong with that. However, there are certainly some legitimate questions about whether Muslims (especially Muslim women) will be pressured into accepting arbitration when they don't want it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sharia law is not being imposed in the UK. It is independent arbitration, and both parties have to agree to settle by arbitration, or the matter will go to the regular courts. In theory, at least, I see nothing wrong with that. However, there are certainly some legitimate questions about whether Muslims (especially Muslim women) will be pressured into accepting arbitration when they don&#8217;t want it.</p>
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		<title>By: Faryshta</title>
		<link>http://atheistblogger.com/2008/09/20/petition-against-sharia-law-in-the-uk/comment-page-1/#comment-3986</link>
		<dc:creator>Faryshta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 06:31:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For me islam is in 21 century what cristianism was in 15 century.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For me islam is in 21 century what cristianism was in 15 century.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
		<link>http://atheistblogger.com/2008/09/20/petition-against-sharia-law-in-the-uk/comment-page-1/#comment-3958</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 17:17:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You should consider starting a chain email - I think that might be a very effective way of getting a lot of signatories...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You should consider starting a chain email - I think that might be a very effective way of getting a lot of signatories&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: rj heywood</title>
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		<dc:creator>rj heywood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 14:00:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*Signed*

My name doesn't appear to be up yet though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*Signed*</p>
<p>My name doesn&#8217;t appear to be up yet though.</p>
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		<title>By: Adrian Hayter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adrian Hayter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 13:30:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The government doesn't run the church, and the queen has no power over the government that she would ever use. She is a figurehead, not a ruler.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The government doesn&#8217;t run the church, and the queen has no power over the government that she would ever use. She is a figurehead, not a ruler.</p>
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		<title>By: Codswallop</title>
		<link>http://atheistblogger.com/2008/09/20/petition-against-sharia-law-in-the-uk/comment-page-1/#comment-3954</link>
		<dc:creator>Codswallop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 13:15:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;cite&gt;The UK is not a Muslim country, it is a secular country, and as such every person should follow the same set of laws.&lt;/cite&gt;

This statement would carry more weight if the UK didn't have an "Established Church" with an "Authorized Version" of the Bible, and a monarch who is both "Head of the Commonwealth" and "Defender of the Faith." Doesn't sound all that secular to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><cite>The UK is not a Muslim country, it is a secular country, and as such every person should follow the same set of laws.</cite></p>
<p>This statement would carry more weight if the UK didn&#8217;t have an &#8220;Established Church&#8221; with an &#8220;Authorized Version&#8221; of the Bible, and a monarch who is both &#8220;Head of the Commonwealth&#8221; and &#8220;Defender of the Faith.&#8221; Doesn&#8217;t sound all that secular to me.</p>
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