you just seem to be a pretty liberal absolutist

How exactly am I an absolutist? If I’ve understood you correctly, you think I’m some kind of totalitarian dictatorship supporter…or is this some other kind of political absolutism you are referring to?

You clever limey! You managed to tack a word onto the debated word again to avoid the definition given! Wow!

Unless I’m reading the wrong conversation, the “debated word” was atheism, and I was agreeing with you on that point! I just furthered the discussion by pointing out why Dictionary.com lists two definitions (one for weak atheism, one for strong). How did I “avoid” the definition???

in that sense, I guess I am an agnostic monotheist.

Glad to hear it.

2) You clever limey! You managed to tack a word onto the debated word again to avoid the definition given! Wow!

3) About agnosticism, I guess one of the other definition on dictionary.com “The belief that there can be no proof either that God exists or that God does not exist.” seemed to be pretty close to yours… but in that sense, I guess I am an agnostic monotheist.

4) Computer Science… cool. Yeah I haven’t read any of your posts about that… that’s fine.

It crossed my mind that you are left wing, and to me, that discredits your opinion to mean anything to me.

So you claim to be open-minded yet reject anything that is brushed with a liberal attitude? Nice.

The lack of any belief about the existence of God is agnosticism. Atheism is a disbelief.

Agnosticism has nothing to do with belief in God, it is about whether or not God can be proven. Since you used Dictionary.com, I’ll use it too:

“an intellectual doctrine or attitude affirming the uncertainty of all claims to ultimate knowledge.”

Huxley (the guy who came up with the term) coined it to express his doubt that you could ever “prove” or disprove something like God. Agnostics can have belief in gods, just as they can have disbeliefs. Myself and most atheists I have met would happily describe themselves as “agnostic atheist” because we don’t believe but don’t claim to be able to disprove.

As for your point about atheism being a belief / disbelief, you should read this wikipedia article to find out why there are two definitions in the dictionary, one for “belief” and one for “disbelief”. In my opinion, I don’t think I have a “belief” that there are no gods, but rather a “disbelief”. You don’t need faith to disbelieve something, since it isn’t “believing” in something.

When you say things like ‘gall’ it makes me laugh. I like your articulation of words. You’re making an appeal to vocabulary, a common way to sway the minds of the people one is trying to manipulate.

Perhaps the phrase isn’t used as much wherever you come from, but I reckon every person in the UK knows what “gall” means and how it is used in conversation. I used it perfectly well, and your criticism of it seems to me rather petty.

Oh and about what this site is supposed to be… your Technorati description says,

My Technorati description is out of date. I put it up when I created the blog, and then several months later changed my direction completely. Technorati login seems to be down at the moment, but thanks for reminding me to change it.

What do you do in school anyways?

Computer Science, and if you actually read my blog you might know that.

“The Atheist Blogger is a weblog devoted to atheism and anti-theism. Issues surrounding religion and atheism are talked about, no matter how controversial they might be.”

…?

Your assertions about me thinking I know this and that and that I know nothing about this or that don’t really make a lot of sense considering I’m the one working off of widely accepted general definitions of words that play a large role on this blog… words about which you tend to be careless as far as definitions go. What do you do in school anyways?

I can’t wait until you make another post! This is fun!

To your number 1:

It crossed my mind that you are left wing, and to me, that discredits your opinion to mean anything to me. But that’s okay… like you said… this blog is for you and that’s fine. I agree Kieth Olbermann made a fair assessment…

To your number 2:

The lack of any belief about the existence of God is agnosticism. Atheism is a disbelief.

Dictionary.com defines atheism as:

1. the doctrine or belief that there is no God.
2. disbelief in the existence of a supreme being or beings.

I’m working off of widely accepted definitions… it’s pretty funny that you didn’t know that and you own a site called “atheistblogger.com”. You have repeatedly shown yourself to be poor with definitions. When you say things like ‘gall’ it makes me laugh. I like your articulation of words. You’re making an appeal to vocabulary, a common way to sway the minds of the people one is trying to manipulate.

Trust me… I’ve spent a lot of time in my life learning what the differences are between theism, deism, atheism, agnosticism, anti-theism, etc.

The reason why I was so troubled reading the things on this site is because 1) it’s supposed to be about secularism and atheism, but the site is littered with left wing partisan bullshit… I mean… Kieth Olbermann? Seriously? He’s more of a Bitch than Ann Coulter! and 2) open-mindedness is supposed to be the heart of skepticism regarding religion, but this blog is dominated by people that have FAITH that there is no God. So you preach against faith when you can’t even recognize the faith under your own nose. Also, there are SO MANY generalizations people on here makes about religious people!

Very quickly (because it’s 5:30 am):

1) This site isn’t “supposed” to be about anything you think it is. Yes, it covers secularism and atheism, but it also covers stuff about my personal life, Linux, general ideas I have, etc. Perhaps the site is littered with left wing “bullshit” because I’m left wing…did that ever cross your mind? No! I don’t agree with everything Keith Olbermann says, but on this occasion he nailed the argument completely, and I think it was stronger because he said at the start that he didn’t have any link to gay people.

2) I have no idea where you get this idea about “faith there is not a god” because I’ve never found a person other than a theist who claims that atheists have this “faith”. Faith means believing something without proper evidence to support it. Atheists don’t “believe” anything, they reject a claim made by theists because of the lack of evidence. We aren’t claiming there is no God, we are simply saying there is no evidence to suggest there is one.

You have shown in your posts that you know absolutely nothing about what atheists think, and then you have the gall to claim that it is we who are the ones making “generalizations”. Unbelievable.

And everyone for that matter…

I am not trying to make any point of pushing my religious views on anyone, only open-mindedness. I really don’t care if you or anyone else believes in God here… that is your choice. I am absolutely against absolutism! =)

I, along with many other people who study physics and math, do not believe in bullshit like ’science proves God’s existence’ or ’science disproves God’s existence’. I am knowledgeable enough of the way science works and answers questions to know that it doesn’t AT ALL interfere with my religious beliefs, and my religious beliefs do not AT ALL interfere with my love for science. I’m on my way to becoming a theoretical physicist and the idea that God exists will NEVER hold me back from questioning the nature of the universe or drive me to believe that science should work a certain way, because I see no relation between science and God.

But my belief in God isn’t even the reason why I am ‘religious’ anyways. The ONLY reason why I am a ‘Christian’ is because I have realized that the best way for me to find peace in the world is to act more like how we hear Christ acted. I don’t care about the magic tricks the Bible says he performed, I don’t care whether or not all the little anecdotes in the Bible are true, I don’t care if Mary was a virgin, and I don’t give a horse’s ass about the origin of the species. So in that sense, I’m not really a Christian by modern definition. I prefer Christ follower because of the way modern Churches have twisted Christianity.

I think it’s great that you guys on here acknowledge the significance of non-violence movements led by MLK, Ghandi, and Christ himself… The reason why I was so troubled reading the things on this site is because 1) it’s supposed to be about secularism and atheism, but the site is littered with left wing partisan bullshit… I mean… Kieth Olbermann? Seriously? He’s more of a Bitch than Ann Coulter! and 2) open-mindedness is supposed to be the heart of skepticism regarding religion, but this blog is dominated by people that have FAITH that there is no God. So you preach against faith when you can’t even recognize the faith under your own nose. Also, there are SO MANY generalizations people on here makes about religious people!

True Atheist feel no guilt.

If this is really your outlook on life and you claim to be a “true atheist” then I am glad I’m not “true” either. I’m a normal atheist, and I accept that morality is defined by society.

Hiding, what you are saying plays right into the hands of the Christians who say that Atheist have no morals. I am not saying that. Perhaps, they are right?