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Marvelous!!!!

oh leave christians alone, everyone is entilted to have an imaginary friend.

Excellent work, keep it up

Number 77 is broken.

awesome post, but you know the first ‘believer’ who comes across this will whine about being persecuted; even though this is just a list of quotes. keep up the good work!

I just stumbled upon this site. Next time I need a good laugh, I’ll come back. Keep it up….LOL!!!

Great List of quotes!

“Faith is belief in the absence of reason”, I’m not sure where I heard this quote, but I believe its a Sam Harris quote.

great work..!

i hv mailed the link to my entire office.. (i work in a bank..!)

my contribuion:

“Religion is the impotence of the human mind to deal with occurrences it cannot understand” – Karl Marx

awesome!!

Typo in 82

Always nice to read of the ignorance that religious people in some cases posses, but then again it make me feel sad. Although i don’t think you should take religion away from those people, because it is all that they have. Religion isn’t always as bad as it is described in some of the quotes in here. It can really help people who don’t have the surplus to not have something to believe in.

This is indeed nothing but an imaginary friend, but it helps (some) people.

Some people just take it one or two steps further, by believing so strongly in their religion, that it becomes ignorance. Those are the ones i really feel sorry for. People who thinks of Religion as a solid alternative to Science.

I don’t mind people have their god and prays a prayer for the dinner or go to church in Sundays as long as they don’t disturbs other people.
In this case religion really is a Pandora’s Bible.

RAmen

religious types are ‘persecuted’ (mind you i don’t agree with alot about homosexuality etc, from the heart, but i’m more of a mind than heart so i just go snip and then it’s personal)…
dostoyevsky was religious. nietzsche went nuts and hugged a horse (ala crime and punishment)
i don’t agree with alot of the crap but some of the best — has come about because of religion, they try to provide, which is more than alot of other people do, and religion is useful for developing a life.
so, at least where i’m at, where people sorta have manners about these things, i can get by, and i’ve made my peace with it; anyway, awesomeness :)

Here’s a good one:

“When Creationists talk about God creating every individual species as a separate act,
they always instance hummingbirds, or orchids, sunflowers and beautiful things.
But I tend to think instead of a parasitic worm that is boring through the eye of a boy
sitting on the bank of a river in West Africa, [a worm] that’s going to make him blind.
And [I ask them], ‘Are you telling me that the God you believe in, who you also say is an all-merciful God, who cares for each one of us individually, are you saying that God created this worm that can live in no other way than in an innocent child’s eyeball?
Because that doesn’t seem to me to coincide with a God who’s full of mercy.”
-David Attenborough

One more:

Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich.
-Napoleon

Nice list, and its good to see it getting some publicity, ever bit helps.

Number 87 has some extra words and spelling mistake

So why can we just skip god the idea of god and go straigth to earth?

Should probably be something like

So why can’t we just skip the idea of god and go straight to earth?

#86:
“Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opiate of the people.”

“Religion is the masterpiece of the art of animal training, for it trains people as to how they shall think.”

Arthur Schopenhauer

#33 was not said by Steve Buscemi. It was him, but he was playing a character in the movie “The Island”

Religion gives answers to two hard questions: “What happens after I die?” and “Do we have free will and why?”

Those questions aren’t really hard questions though, but rather their logical and obvious answers are far too depressing for most people.

Religion is just another excuse for not facing reality.
Also atheism is just another excuse for stating the depressingly obvious.

I had no time to answer point by point to all the quotes. But here are the first 20. Let me know on email your counter-rebuttals.

1. The fact that a believer is happier than a sceptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one. The happiness of credulity is a cheap and dangerous quality. – George Bernard Shaw

- this comparison is unfair; faith is more like the happiness of love; a life without love is not worth living

2. Faith means not wanting to know what is true. – Friedrich Nietzsche

- unless you are a top level quantum physicist or neurologist all you can do is “BELIEVE” in what others say; if you can’t understand Schroedinger’s equation, how can you talk about the nature of the universe? I would say that true ateists must have an IQ of over 120

3. I believe in God, only I spell it Nature. – Frank Lloyd Wright

- true; all is God (by definition)

4. We must question the story logic of having an all-knowing all-powerful God, who creates faulty Humans, and then blames them for his own mistakes. – Gene Roddenberry

- that is one bad way of defining God; there are other definitions – for example – “God is Oneness expressing itself in Diversity” – with that defitition the above quote would have been a non starter

5. To surrender to ignorance and call it God has always been premature, and it remains premature today. – Isaac Asimov

- true; many stupid people find an escape in “faith”; in fact they getting drunk with pure water; you need a philosopher’s mind and a mystic’s heart to approach God

6. A man is accepted into a church for what he believes and he is turned out for what he knows. – Samuel Clemens (Mark Twain)

- haha excellent!; lot’s of division going on in churches; rivalries, obtusity and such

7. Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful. – Seneca the Younger

- presumptuous; many “wise” man believed in God; religion on the other hand might be watered down, distorted spirituality; or it might be genuine, too – depends on who and practices it and how it is understood

8. Philosophy is questions that may never be answered. Religion is answers that may never be questioned. – Anonymous

- not so; even in philosophy you need presumptions; in math you need axioms; you cannot apply reason without a basic set of agreed “thruths”; trying to place a divide in a place where is a continuous link; religion and philosophy are not separate like this quote suggests

9. Not only is there no god, but try getting a plumber on weekends. – Woody Allen

- only in the world of his head

10. If I were not an atheist, I would believe in a God who would choose to save people on the basis of the totality of their lives and not the pattern of their words. I think he would prefer an honest and righteous atheist to a TV preacher whose every word is God, God, God, and whose every deed is foul, foul, foul. – Isaac Asimov

- so true

11. Belief in the supernatural reflects a failure of the imagination. – Edward Abbey

- 300 years ago a cell phone would have been seen as supernatural; you might just believe in yet undiscovered concepts

12. With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion. – Steven Weinberg

- not so; it takes dualism; me vs them mentality; we are right and they are wrong mentality; religion has it, but so do many other atheists; Stalin for example believed he was supposed to tell everyone how and where to live – and look what disaster he created

13. I still say a church steeple with a lightning rod on top shows a lack of confidence. – Doug McLeod

- haha :-) nice

14. The world holds two classes of men – intelligent men without religion, and religious men without intelligence. – Abu’l‐Ala al Ma’arri

- forcing a divide where there is none; division is BAD; black and white is BAD; grays, subtle nuances GOOD

15. Since the Bible and the church are obviously mistaken in telling us where we came from, how can we trust them to tell us where we are going? – Anonymous

- the creation part is just an allegory; eternity in hell for sinners is an abomination which was voted into the church dogma for political reasons (mass control)

16. I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do because I notice it always coincides with their own desires. – Susan B. Anthony

- a very slippery slope, indeed; yet we are all accountable for our deeds; no worry

17. The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike. – Delos B. McKown

- conclusion: radio waves are probably a myth!

18. Two hands working can do more than a thousand clasped in prayer. – Anonymous

- a mind recognizing beauty and insight can do in a second what a working had does in a lifetime (just remember Einstein and how he have us nuclear power); prayer – insight – meditation – whatever you call it, is what makes us better than robotic drones

19. Atheism leaves a man to sense, to philosophy, to natural piety, to laws, to reputation; all of which may be guides to an outward moral virtue, even if religion vanished; but religious superstition dismounts all these and erects an absolute monarchy in the minds of men. – Francis Bacon

- superstitions are bad :-) but that doesn’t say people shouldn’t be religious; there might be a better religion than Christianity somewhere

20. The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully. – Richard Dawkins

- and that is what came out of the myth and legends of populations that lived 2000 – 3000 years ago; so why use that book? try and put forth a proper concept about God!

Radio waves are not invisible… Just because the human eye cannot see them it does not mean that they are invisible if they can be proven existent by instruments, which for example can see such colors with that long wavelength.

What I am trying to say is, that many of your statements are build on misunderstandings heavily influenced by your subjective opinion and/or faith. I assume you are being heavily sarcastic in some cases though…

Of course every thinking being should be allowed to have their own opinion, but lest it not be so self convincing, that it becomes ignorance. Facts can disprove of any opinion that strides against it.

Again, Religion is without doubt wonderful, but it is never to be superior than logical facts.

RAmen

My favorite quote (from Wicked Jester Clothing, as stated by Thorin) *Why is there enough religion to incite war, but not enough religion to instill tolerance*

It may not be quite “atheistic,” but I believe it makes its point, nonetheless.

Some of my favorites:

“The truth may be puzzling. It may take some work to grapple with. It may be counterintuitive. It may contradict deeply held prejudices. It may not be consonant with what we desperately want to be true. But our preferences do not determine what’s true.” –Carl Sagan

“For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring.” –Carl Sagan

“We’ve tended in our cosmologies to make things familiar. Despite all our best efforts, we’ve not been very inventive. In the West, Heaven is placid and fluffy, and Hell is like the inside of a volcano. In many stories, both realms are governed by dominance hierarchies headed by gods or devils. Monotheists talked about the king of kings. In every culture we imagined something like our own political system running the Universe. Few found the similarity suspicious.” -Carl Sagan

“You can’t convince a believer of anything; for their belief is not based on evidence, it’s based on a deep seated need to believe.” -Carl Sagan (more great Sagan quotes on religion available here: http://atheism.about.com/library/quotes/bl_q_CSagan.htm)

“I cannot imagine a God who rewards and punishes the objects of his creation, whose purposes are modeled after our own — a God, in short, who is but a reflection of human frailty.” –Albert Einstein

“A man’s ethical behavior should be based effectually on sympathy, education, and social ties; no religious basis is necessary. Man would indeed be in a poor way if he had to be restrained by fear of punishment and hope of reward after death.”-Albert Einstein

“A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything.” –Nietzsche

“We must respect the other fellow’s religion, but only in the sense and to the extent that we respect his theory that his wife is beautiful and his children are smart.” -Henry Mencken

“If I look over my life, every single step of maturing for me, every single one, has had the exact same common denominator, and that was accepting what was true over what I wished were true.” –Julia Sweeney

“The most savage controversies are those about matters as to which there is no good evidence either way. Persecution is used in theology, not in arithmetic.”
– Bertrand Russell

“The whole conception of a God is a conception derived from the ancient oriental despotisms. It is a conception quite unworthy of free men…. We ought to stand up and look the world frankly in the face. We ought to make the best we can of the world, and if it is not so good as we wish, after all it will still be better than what these others have made of it in all these ages.”
– Bertrand Russell

“Religion is something left over from the infancy of our intelligence, it will fade away as we adopt reason and science as our guidelines.” –Bertrand Russell

i love your list;here’s another quote you might like :
“For those who believe in God,most of the big questions are answered.
But for those of us who can’t readily accept the God formula,the big answers don’t remain stone written…
We adjust to new conditions and discoveries.We are pliable.Love need to be a command or faith a dictum.I am my own God.
We are here to unlearn the teachings of the church,state and our educational system.We are here to drink beer.We are here to kill war.We are here to laugh at the odds and live our lives so well that Death will tremble to take us.”
-Charles Bukowski-

“As with dogs, so with gods – by and large, you should blame the owners.”
Martin Rowson

“Religion is Mythology Misunderstood.”

Joseph Campbell
From the book “The Hero’s Journey — Joseph Campbell On His Life and Work”

Religious war –
‘My imaginary friend is better than your imaginary friend’.

there are some mistakes such az number 101 which should be
‘Isn’t it enough to see that a garden is beautiful without having to
believe that there are fairies at the bottom of it too?’
and my reference is the beginning of the book ‘the god delusion’ written by Richard Dawkins.
and also number 77 should be
‘When one person suffers from a delusion, it is called insanity. When many people suffer from a delusion it is called Religion.’
the same reference page 5.
and thanks a lot.

We all like a good laugh at the expense of stupidity, but never forget that, where your rights are concerned, Christians are dangerous.

These are great quotes. Though atheism, like any ideology (which is the modern form of a religion) is just a belief system. Like any other belief system which will be dogmatically defended.
What humors me too is a lot of these quotes are reactionism to a creator-god, as if they somehow are disappointed with it if there was such a thing, failing to realize that no Gods, but HUMANS created the horror story we call history. And thus no fictional god is to be shoved responsibility too, but just humans.

So here are some quotes that are anti-BS (which is also anti-religion but also anti-atheism), I hope you get a few laughs and thoughts out of them:
all are by Robert Anton Wilson

“Whenever people are certain they understand our peculiar situation here on this planet, it is because they have accepted a religious Faith or a secular Ideology
(Ideologies are the modern form of Faiths) and just stopped thinking.”

“Intelligence is the capacity to receive, decode and transmit information efficiently.
Stupidity is blockage of this process at any point. Bigotry, ideologies etc. block the ability to receive; robotic reality-tunnels block the ability to decode or integrate new signals; censorship blocks transmission.”

“The materialist fundamentalists are funnier than the Christian fundamentalists, because they think they’re rational!”

“We can all see how other people’s BS (belief system or bullshit :p) makes them blind and “stupid” at times, but we find it very hard to notice how our own BS is doing the same to us. This is what anthropologists call ‘acculturalization.’ Following Gurdjieff, I prefer to call it hypnosis… Every politician knows how to induce hypnosis, and very damned few peple on the whole planet know how to de-hypnotize themselves. The world is not governed by facts or logic. It is governed by BS (belief systems).”

1. Never believe totally in anybody else’s BS.
2. Never believe totally in your own BS.

“In (Gordiano) Bruno’s day the 3 terms were divided up differently, you had science and mysticism on one side, and religion on the other side. Science and mysticism are alike in their struggle against religion. They were both based on experience and respect for the individual. The idea of science and mysticism was go out and discover for yourself. Find out what works, find out how the universe is actually structured and how you relate to the structure of the universe. And so there were basically 2 areas of scientific exploration, the external and the internal. But they were both pursued by the same method, the experimental method.”

“Belief is the death of intelligence. As soon as one believes a doctrine of any sort,
or assumes certitude, one stops thinking about that aspect of existence.”

“All around one the True Believers trudge by, mouths grim, brows furrowed, ulcers and worse eating at their innards. This desperate company of oddfellows (Thoreau) live in what psychologists call ‘cognitive dissonance.’ Because their reality-maps are, one and all, too small to cover the vast, eerie, amusing world in which we live, they are perpetually frustrated: the world does not live up to their fixed beliefs. They are all convinced that there is something radically wrong with the universe itself, or with the rest of humanity, and they never suspect that the real trouble is in their own rigid and robotic nervous systems.”

“People have murdered each other, in massive wars and guerilla actions, for many centuries, and still murder each other in the present, over Ideologies and Religions which, stated as propositions, appear neither true nor false to modern logicians – meaningless propositions that look meaningful to the linguistically naive.”

Amen!
ooops……….. caught up in a lie!
I have a collection of these and other TRUTHS

Haha. BS, I concur. Love the quotes.

Hmm, great. But who are 90% of these people? I noticed “Anonymous” made quite a few appearances. As a contrast, some famous Theists:

Aristotle
Albert Einstein
George Washington
Plato
Leonardo Di Vinci
CS Lewis
Benjamin Franklin
Isaac Newton

Just a few of the greatest thinkers and statesmen in history…

Also, I enjoyed quote #27 by Christopher Hitchens: “What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof” Such as, say, the assertion that there is no God? Fine, dismissed.

Phenomenal quotes!

Response to Visarga. IQ does not measure intelligence, because intelligence is a vague abstract concept, meaning different things to different people, much like God. IQ tests are culturally biased and only measure logic skills which have one right answer. They cannot measure your performance in situations where there are many possible answers. Having studied Biology at degree level, I cannot differentiate between intelligent behaviour and that of a sufficiently complex machine, which is essentially what organisms are. If God designed us, I would say that he did a pretty shoddy job, much like a cowboy builder. Evolution provides a much better explanation of why we have an appendix and why our eyes seem to be wired backwards.

The only way to prove the existence of God, is first come up with an objective definition of what God actually is. Then, devise some testable hypotheses based on this definition. However, the existence or non-existence of God is not falsifiable, so therefore unknowable. Unless God decides to make a personal appearance and says worship me or else, I do not feel the need to believe in him or any of the other man-made religions that cause such ridiculous behaviour in people. Every time I look closely at organized religion, I see some kind of political motive designed to manipulate the masses, or primitive beliefs based on ignorance of how the universe actually works.

Einstein did not give us nuclear power. He discovered the mass-energy equation which showed that nuclear power was possible. As far as I know he played no
part in the actual invention of nuclear power, and was horrified when he realized how his discoveries could be used to make the most terrible weapons in our history.

Sorry, my bad. Einstein appears to have spent 2 days working on the atomic bomb. I doubt he really achieved much in 2 days work though. His contribution was purely theoretical.

Nice quotes.

I’m sorry that I can’t write in English what I want to, but these quotes are great.
Have you ever thought why communism hates religion? Because it’s religion itself and doesn’t want to share its power. The power and only the power is the only object of any religion.

James: Criticizing anonymous quotes merely because they’re anonymous is very revealing. I’m guessing that you are – like many a theist – a sucker for arguments from authority. Quotable quotes ring true even when you scribble out the byline. Oh btw, Benjamin Franklin and Albert Einstein weren’t “Theists” (sic) they were deists. If you think that’s splitting hairs take it up with them. htp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_Franklin#Virtue.2C_religion_and_personal_beliefs
htp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Einstein#Religious_views

James:

You are using the statement “What can be asserted witout proof, can be dismissed without proof.” in a wrong way. What you are trying to do with your logical presentation is the opposite of what the quote says.
You are asserting a dismission, which conflicts. Hope you see the paradox, and see why such a statement doesn’t carry any meaning.

RAmen

I am in no way religious, but using logic – faith is a feeling and using something as interpretive as words to quantify a feeling leaves those words hallow and useless, allowing them to be used in any way the reader sees fit.

Every thought that one has throughout the day, even their life, is bore in a feeling. What one sees or hears, or even smells or touches, is responded to by a feeling, ones “gut reaction” so to speake. Thus the thought is nothing more than a verbal representation of the feeling.

Therefore with the very same breathe that one uses to explain or express anything, one also invalidates the very point that they are trying to prove.

The fundies, you, and yes even me, are all wrong we are trying to express something that is inherently unexpressable, so why even try.

-p.s.
– then there is just the overlooming fact that if God created everything: us, the animals, the plants, the world, and the universe, then a “being” of such scope and magnitude would be so far beyond what we know of as existence, that our interaction would be impossible, so once again, why even try.

Don’t attribute the quote from the Island to Steve Buscemi. Attribute it to the person who wrote it. Steve Buscemi is an actor delivering someone else’s line.

First off, Adrian I apologise if what I said caused even the slightest bit of anger, that was not my intention,and if you thought that it was I must apologise again, I am sorry. With my comment about “the fundies” that was not refering to Atheism in any way, I was refering to any and all organized religion and doctrine.

Second, I was not trying to infer that you were trying to prove the inexistance of God, so put away your six shooters. However, you may not be trying to prove that God doesn’t exist, but you are trying to prove “the fundies” wrong in the fact that we should devote ourselves to a “higher power”, i.e. God, or God like figure. I am not going to unload some tripe about how I believe in a higher power that isn’t a God, that I believe in everthing and everyones potential, that everyone has something to contribute. The truth is I believe in one thing and one thing only, myself, it is the only thing that I can say with absolute truth, because I am only capable of knowing myself. I CANNOT know anyone or anything else, I can only know who you wish me to know, who you wish me to see. (That and saying everyone has something to contribute is the same as saying everyone has to contribute something, but that’s off topic.)

My previous post was alluring to my point that arguing about what you do believe or don’t believe in ultimatly proves nothing more than what you do or don’t believe in. This belief that if I prove the fact that I believe in something somehow proves that what I believe in is real, is utterly unfounded. I can prove the fact I personally don’t believe that the sun exists simply by saying “I don’t believe that the sun exists”, but that in no way makes the sun disappear, or strikes the memory of the suns existence from the minds of everyone else for that matter. All it proves is that I’m a loon who doesn’t believe in the sun.

My problem with organized religion, and even atheism, is that if I’m not one thing than I’m the other. If I believe in God then I am religious, if i don’t believe in God than I am atheist. Even if I am neither, I don’t believe in God but I do believe that there is a “higher order” greater than myself, I’m agnostic. What I was trying to introduce was the idea that does a label allow you to understand the object any better? Is the ability to understand something contingent on the label? Is the label needed or just wanted?

A few more questions before you verbally berate me how ever you see fit, if Gods existence were to be proven tomorrow, beyond any doubt that it is God (be it Christian, Muslim, Buddhist, Norse, Celtic, ect. or even Scientology(HA!)) will any of you change your beliefs, in any way? Now, if tomorrow, when you wake up, Gods existence is proven, in everyones eyes, without a doubt to be false, that He did in fact never exist, that for thousands of years we have had it undeniably wrong, do you think that they will change their beliefs in any way?
Of course not, on both accounts, none, absolutly none of you will change even in the slightest aspect of your beliefs. This is what I meant by “why even try”.

-p.s.
-is “atheistic fundamentalism” anything like “scheduled anarchism”?

-Adrian
Since you have decided to not focus on what I have said but rather the inaccurate nature of what I have said, I am forced to question what you have said. I must apologise for this is not how I wished this conversation to be protrayed, as a dual.

Why so angry?

Why must you insist that I am wrong?

Do you think that if you prove me wrong, then you must be right?

Can a rational free thinker, such as yourself, not even entertain the possibilities that I have put forth?

I know that I may be wrong in my beliefs, that everything that I have built my entire process of thinking upon may not be right, can you not say the same?

Or do you dare not say the same out of some illset grasp at saving face?
No, it’s not that, you care not for saving face, because if you did you would have asked for others apporval of your comments, but you have done no such thing.

Is it the sheer jest of battle that drives you forth?
That would explain your compulsion to treat it as such, regardless of the fact that I have already pointed out that my intentions are not to anger you, I have even gone as far as apologising to you, a person I do not know, nor will probably ever meet, for something that I did not need to apologise for. And yet you still attack me – :P – no, it can’t be battle that is rousing you, because I believe you when you say that you are a rational free thinker, and as such you would recognize the irrationality of battle.

So then what is it, what is this momentum leading you to be so forceful in your beliefs?
So unwavering in your lack of being able to even acknowledge the mere possibility of something outside of your realm of truth?

I have presented nothing more that alternative thoughts, albeit contary thoughts, but alternative none the less, and you have fired back in such fury as to not just contradict me, but list in numeration where I have left your path. You wish to prove me wrong to such a degree that you willingly chomp down on any and all inaccuracies with such tenacity that I can almost hear your teeth clanging together by my ear, you even go in to as much detail as to correct my definitions.

This over whelming sence of you are right, and I am wrong is so profound that you only focus on what is wrong with my statement, but point out only that you “can see where I am coming from” not even know where I am coming from, merely see. Which I might add is quickly followed by yet another personal attack.

Is it that what I say sounds a little too close to spirtualism for comfort?
Or is it the fact that what I say cannot be definitivly proven?

If God were to be proven true and you say that your belief wouldn’t even come in to it, than why must they renouce their faith if God is proven false? How came they must give up, wheras you only gain?

You also say that the fundamentalists out right deny Evolution with such ignorance, but is that not what you are doing to me, denying me with such ignorance?

And finally, with your last point all that must be said is thank you, thank you ever so much for proving a point that I did not even bring up. No where have I ever even elluded to atheistic fundamentalism, but that seems to be all that you wish to talk about. Now as for this “belief system that powers their thoughts and actions” is not rationality, free minded thinking, and evolution such a system as to impower your very thoughts and actions as your beliefs call for it; you have been driving into almost every thought that you express that atheism and fundamentalism cannot co-exist, and to prove me wrong to such a fervent level that would leave no doubt, in at least your eyes, that you are right, you attack not only my beliefs but me personally, reaffirming your own over anyone elses.

That’s not fundamentalism, that’s extremism bud. (Before you tell me that I am improperly using the term extremism, I am using it in the manner of that any political theory favouring immoderate, uncompromising policies.)

Now come on and give me yet another list of things that I have gotten wrong, but this time try to present it without the personal attacks, it only helps me when you get angry.

Uhh, just one comment. Agnostics don’t necessarily believe in a higher power, they don’t believe one way or another.

I say, “If there’s no God, great; if it turns out there is, I’m going to Hell.”

You two have a very strange ‘argument’ going on. It is pointless to attempt reasoning with the deluded — you both figure out who that is…

Who you might see as deluded I might see as revolutionary, and vice versa.

I could even go as far as to say that the deluded are the only ones who truly see with reason, for they are not subject to morality, nor susceptible to the illusions of control.

Everyone seems to think that Crhistians are close minded, but, in all reality, so are athiests. Why do you care if I belive in God? Why must you constantly try to change my opinion? Schools, colleges, T.V. personalities, politicians, and even people on their computers try to tell me that I am wrong.
If I am wrong and there is no God (there is, though) and I live according to the teachings of Jesus. I promote Love, life, honesty, and morality what have I done wrong?
On the other hand, If I was an atheist (which, clearly I am not) and I turn out to be wrong. I lose everything
(Adrian Hayter left the comment that Evolution has been “proven” or at least “vastly supported”. Well, it has not been proven. So it must be vastly supported. And there is a large difference between the two, I must say. To say that I don’t agree with it makes me ignorant is very upsetting. You are believing what someone has told you, and I am doing the same. It is clear that you have made no contribution to scientific discovery seeing as how you have enough time to sit in front of your computer and bash people that believe in God. So, how do you know? Are you listening to the “leading authorities”? Most of you believe that the media gives false propagnda to get you to believe what they want you to believe, but Evolution can’t fall into that category! For such a free thinker you sure are close minded.)
Anyway, I am tired of being labeled “idiot” just because of my way of thought. I think “Free-thinkers” would approach my way of thought a little more open-minded than they do, but maybe being open-minded isn’t a “must-have” for Free-Thinkers.

Actaully, Christianity does not condone attacking homosexuals. On the contrary, I love all homosexuals. But I do hate sin. Homosexuality is a sin.
To be honest, I have had homosexual friends. If you read about Jesus, He was friends with all types of sinners. He had beef with the church people that you have beef with. He came to set the sinner free and the ones that thought they were righteous and didn’t want to help sinners, only reject them, He came against. I am in no way here to condemn sinners, I was one. I cannot judge. All I can do is share the good news that I have freely been given. I don’t believe that any sin is greater than the other, so my sin is just as bad as someone who lived the life of a serial killer. You will never hear me condemn a homosexual. The Scriptures you are referring to were written under the Law. As you probably know, Jesus came to set the Law straight because it had become a man made law that took precedence over God.
There is also no scripture pertaining to attacks on abortion clinics. Any type of violence is wrong and, I agree with you, immoral. The Bible specifically says that we are not to wrestle (or fight) with flesh and blood. I do stand against abortion, but if I hurt someone, I would be going against what I am preaching myself. The doctors life that I am hurting is just as important as the childs life that is being taken.

You watch to much Law & Order. The people that you are referring to are called extremists. They exist in every religion. If it is not right to classify all muslims by the beliefs of few, then it is not right to do the same to Christianity.

“My comment on Evolution I suspect you did not fully grasp.” No I don’t think that you fully grasped mine. I said,

“So, how do you know? Are you listening to the “leading authorities”? Most of you believe that the media gives false propagnda to get you to believe what they want you to believe, but Evolution can’t fall into that category! For such a free thinker you sure are close minded.” Sure, you have had classes, read books and talked, but, unless you do it yourself, how do you know that they are not lying?

“whereas if you don’t even belief it, how can you even try and discredit me???”
You don’t believe in God, yet you’re trying to discredit me, aren’t you? That statement just didn’t make sense to me. Did you run out of things to intelligently argue?

Also, it sounds like you have had a bad experience in your past with Christianity. Maybe your parents forced it or you were hurt by an extremist or you ran into a hypocrite. I am sorry. Not all of us are the way they were in your past. Some of us are good people. “I hope one day you truly see the light and join us.”

All sarcasm aside, I am praying for you.

And, I’m not an idiot.

Recently I walked through the park with my friend. When I mentioned Darwin he said – “Don’t you know, Darwin was wrong.”. Why, I said. “They all say so” was the answer. Who the fuck are “they”? I live in a ex-communist country (Bulgaria). Communists (A religion too) said “There is no god and Darwin is right” When communism failed then priests said – “Communism failed ergo Darwin is wrong.
Every atheist is well educated person. Every believer is a warrior. By all cost. But every priest is a merchant. And the goods are we.
P.S. Sorry for my English

Oh, and I didn’t say that if I was an athiest, I would lose everything. I said that If I was an atheist and Christianity WAS right, I would lose everything. But, If I’m a Christian and You ARE right, then it doesn’t really hurt anything. I guess if another religion turned out to be right, I’d be in trouble. But since this isn’t a muslim( or any other religion) page, I didn’t add them.

“I urge you not to even consider using it again!” I don’t need your approval on what arguments I use or don’t use.

I have absolutely no idea what you mean, Zazzy, but rock on!

Halleluiah brothers and sisters.
I came to say to every atheist that he’ll burn in hell (about 10 kilometers beneath). All of the believers will live in heaven (Between Mars and Jupiter). Because the Earth is flat. And if there is somebody controversial he will burn in flames in the same hell I’ve already mentioned. So, close this sinners blog. Don’t make the almighty GOD angry, or he (she, it ?) will crash the servers you are hosting at and your computers will be damned. Click here to purchase the only “Anti Damnation device just for $9.95.
There is way out. Start to believe. And give donations to church as much as possible.
GOD has everything except money and that’s because we are here.
P.S.
I’ve already been told that the atheist servers, sites, and forums have been crashed in almost 432 countries. But almighty GOD spared this one for me.
P.P.S
I’m sorry – 433 countries

Aristotle
Albert Einstein
George Washington
Plato
Leonardo Di Vinci
CS Lewis
Benjamin Franklin
Isaac Newton
I copied this list from an earlier post.
They were all theists. So, if such great people believed in god that proofs its existence.
Of course I can deliver(and I will) a list of such great people that don’t believe in god. And shall be I right to say – look these great people – they don’t believe in god therefore there is no god.
Everybody has and must has his rights. To believe or not. But the major difference between me and the church is that the church is ready to kill me if I don’t believe. And don’t say to me that it is not the truth. We all know how many people have died, die and shall die in the name of god. (In the name of being a slave, work for the master, never complain and never commit suicide (who will work?)).
I don’t know how many people had been died in the name of god.

Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful. – Seneca

When I was a kid I used to pray every night for a new bicycle. Then I realised that the Lord doesn’t work that way so I stole one and asked Him to forgive me. – This is for catholics

The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one G. B. Shaw

Is Jesus willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?

Religion is excellent stuff for keeping common people quiet – Napoleon

When a person speaks to god it’s a prayer, when god speaks to a person it’s a schizophrenia.

The last thing that I want to say is that I am afraid of any religious person. He is ready to kill me.

I take back what I said, zazzle, don’t rock on…

I couldn’t tell what you were trying to say, but it is clear now. Have you READ any of my posts?

You’re arguments aren’t even intelligent. At least Adrian Hayter could give me that much courtesy. You just degrade and bash. People like you are the reason that people are hated on both sides.

If you would let the “big boys” talk, it wouldn’t come down to a mindless argument based on jokes and quips and trying to make each other mad.

“We all know how many people have died, die and shall die in the name of god.”
You know how many people have died in the name of everything else? It’s what you do for something you believe in.

“Is Jesus willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?”
That is the dumbest thing I have ever heard! The very thought of Him doing these what this quote says makes you cringe. He would be infringing on your “unalienable rights”! Either way we go, I lose.

One more question, What did you prove? (Other than youare incapable of an intellectual, adult conversation/debate.)

I like you, Adrian, I like you. I don’t know why, but I do.

I would like to know your response to the rest of what I have said. There are like 3 posts. And about the whole discrediting thing, I think that you said, and qoute, “If indeed you live by good morals, promote love, honesty etc, then I have no beef with you, and I doubt many other people will have. However, it is impossible to follow the true Bible and what Jesus preached and still be “moral” by today’s standards. There is nothing “moral” about attacking homosexuals, and yet the Bible condones it. The same thing applies with the attacks made on abortion clinics, it’s just not moral!”

It seems to me that you are trying to say that you know more about my religion than I do, and trying to discredit the statement that I made. And there is my personal Fav:
“your beliefs are (to me) idiotic and irrational.”

Why do you think that it would be easier for me to understand that we descended from “ape-like” creatures rather than apes themselves? We still descended from something that wasn’t like us. Even though I know that evolution teaches what you say it teaches (for I have had the same classes, read the same books, and talked to a lot people also), What diifference does it make that people think we came from apes?

Also, I would like to know your thoughts on the biblical (and every other major religions) flood account. Explain the Ocean sedimentery along with fossils of crustaceans that have been found on mountain tops. Explain the Grand Canyon (the flood is the perfect explanation for it). Explain how archealogists how found fossils of whales in the middle of continents (we know that our prehistoric family members couldn’t have possibly known how or had the means to get the carcas there.)

A FAQ would be kind of cool. Maybe a little refresher on the subject. (It’s been college since a last studied it to any extent.)

I do enjoy a good debate, and I want you to know that I have not been mad this whole time. Yes, I don’t like being called an idiot, but I am not mad. I was aggrevated with Zazzy, though.

You were, in previous posts, pointing out the wrong things to do in a debate. Throwing your *KNOWLEDGE* around to make people feel inferior is the wrong way to debate. What I mean is adding stuff that doesn’t have anything to do with what we are talking about, like the “half-evolved” stuff. I didn’t ask that, why say it?

So yeah, I am all about the FAQ. I already know how evolution works, but okay.

What I don’t understand is how you are so sure of evolution. You keep saying things like “evidence”. Unless I am wrong, you have no fossils to prove our common ancestry.
No fossils to fill in “the missing link”. I mean, all of your fossils have turned out to be fakes or “disappeared”. What evidence?

I hope that you are not upset with me. I am not with you. Just don’t call me an idiot. I haven’t agreed with anythhing that you have said thus far, yet you never see me referring to you or your stand points as idiotic. I would ask the same courtesy.

Love the debate!

Hello?

I have never heard some of that explained so intelligently… I still disagree though. Sorry I haven’t commented in a whil, been busy.

Heres one

“Beware not to be so heavenly minded to be of no Earthly use”-?????

A stupendous collection. I’ve bookmarked this for future reference!

This is great! I’m bookmarking this for future reference.

Hello Atheist Blogger. Re: misattributions on this list, see my comment on http://ionian-enchantment.blogspot.com/2008/04/101-atheist-quotes.html

RELIGION IS LIKE COMMUNISM: IT WOULD BE GREAT IF IT WORKED…BUT IT DOESN’T.

Actually, I was wrong that Twain couldn’t have know the universe was billions of years old. In 1895 one John Perry published a paper in Nature advocating an age of billions of years, see: http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v51/n1319/abs/051341b0.html

The Nietzschean quote should read “Which is it? Is man only God’s mistake or God only man’s mistake.” You’ve slightly misrepresented his rhetorical skill and his writing ability.

Yeah. I’ve never seen a group work so hard at remaining ignorant as the Christians in our area. And that’s not enough for them. They want to bring us along. :)

A simple stat… 75% of US population christian .. 10% atheist

75% of prison population christians
0.2% of prison population atheist

maybe a free mind help u think logically …

I dont understand why Visarga (one who have added counter-comments) dont understand that there is no Good or Bad in this world. Neither there is a God nor a Devil. Its just us. We are the (so called)God for ourselves to be frank. For then you have every right to do what you want to do. Whether you want to live or even to commit a suicide. The world will remain even if you die or if you life for a million years. Your mom would never love u as she does now if you are just her neighbour. Your siblings & friends will sacrifice their life for you only becuase you are the same to them. Not if ur a stranger. So whether you want to live or die better do it for YOURSELF. You will never be as beautiful and as intelligent as you are today. Theoritically Speaking, LIFE IS BEAUTIFUL becasue it is already DOOMED!!! And neither the Beauty nor the Doom was created by the(so called terminology) GOD!!!.

I am not an athiest, but I really enjoy these quotes. Many of which make complete sense and all deserve contemplation. I despise more than anything, the fact that people on both sides are so damn insistent that they are right and never bother to have open minded conversations on the subject. I think it would be great if people who went to church viewed some of these comments with an open mind and were able to take the blinders off and debate things of this nature rationally and without getting crazy. I’d also like to see athiest, many of whom are just as pompous as the Bible crowd, open thier minds to the thought that maybe they aren’t the know-it-all’s they’d like to believe.

i love all of your quotes.
i even put a few on my myspace.
keep the good work up.
i’m atheist and proud of it.

Here’s one:

“Suppose we’ve chosen the wrong god. Every time we go to church we’re just making him madder and madder.” … Homer Simpson

PS: Brilliant site BTW…

“All thinking men are atheists” – Ernest Hemingway

very good site mate, you have given me a few more things to think about when Im putting my poems together. ( http://www.robbospoems.co.uk ) but my all time favourite is as follows!
Geology shows that fossils are of different ages. paleontology shows a fossil sequence, the list of species representing changes through time. Taxonomy shows biological relationships among species. Evolution is the explanation that threads it all together. Creationism is the practice of squeezing both eyes shut and shouting “DOSE NOT”

you are all going to hell haha. but you guys are so arrogant and ignorant you will still think this site is awesome even when you are there. i truly feel bad for you.

God Bless

I know there are measurements given for heaven, but does the bible ever say how big ‘hell’ is? because I was wondering…will we all fit, do you think? :P

oh, and here’s one of my favourite quotes, not really atheistic or anything but still…

“the Book of Revelation (ch. XXI, v.16) gives it [heaven] as a cube 12,000 furlongs on a side. This is somewhat less than 500,000,000,000,000,000,000 cubic feet. Even allowing that the Heavenly Host and other essential services take up at least two thirds of this space, this leaves about one million cubic feet of space for each human occupant … This is such a generous amount of space that it suggests that room has also been provided for some alien races or — a happy thought — that pets are allowed.” – Terry Pratchett

Amazing.

‘Creationism’ couldn’t be a better label.

“some famous Theists:

Aristotle
Albert Einstein
George Washington
Plato
Leonardo Di Vinci
CS Lewis
Benjamin Franklin
Isaac Newton

Just a few of the greatest thinkers and statesmen in history…”

This is neither a good point, nor is it true. What about all the great Statesmen and Thinkers who aren’t on that list? And why does the fact that a few famous people believe in a “god” mean that these beliefs are justified.
Einstein was never a theist. To misquote the above list, he believed in God, but called it Nature.

Benjamin Franklin was equally un-theistic. The United States was set up as a Secular Nation, not the Christian Theocracy that many would have it be.

And as for most of the rest of the list, they were all born in a time when to admit atheism was to risk becoming a pariah, and even death.

I absolutely LOVE this! Great work!

I can’t comprehend why or how so many people just buy this crap. I feel like I’m watching from the outside, unable to get in and tell them the truth. It is surreal and truly incomprehensible. I applaud you for doing your part. Now if we could just get religion out of politics, we’d be on to something. How about taxing churches? Show me an atheist politician, and I’ll show you someone who has my vote.

My contribution:

Religion is Natural Selections greatest accompishment.

Extreme atheism is a joke… they become more arrogant than the fundamentalist religious believers. The sensible thing to do is to sit on the wall. Embrace spirituality and accept there may be something more in the world than what meets the etc. But don’t ignore religion or claim it as a truth.

Physics has proven there is more to the world than what meets the eye. Things larger, on different dimensions of which we can’t comprehend. This is no different to belief in an afterlife or an existence after our own, for all we know, in our space of comprehension, what physics finds through mathematics, may, just in fact be what many of the world religions call paradise.

lol i love this site, every single quote is so true.. ty for liberating my mind and hopefully other peoples

Thanks,

“If you give GOD all the correct, then you must give GOD all the blame. I give GOD neither, I take responsiblity for myself!”

“If the bible is the inspired word of GOD, and GOD is the creator of all things – don’t you think that she could have worked her magic and gave the scribes some better tools, like maybe a voice recorder, video camera and computer, to get it right?” – JC

My fave:
“Even if god did exist, we would have to destroy him” – Bakunin

another nice one

“God has no religion”– Gandhi.

Steven Colbert is not an Atheist, nor is his quote truly associated with Atheism. He is a catholic and a comedian with enough sense not to take his religion too seriously.

Why don’t we keep this civil. Everyone knows about the fundamentalist Christians, like in the South and all that. How they’re “crazy” and whatnot. However there are atheists that are just as crazy. People dislike Christians because of their persistent nature in trying to spread their religion. Not all, but fundamentalist atheists are just as crazy. Not in ideals or theory (which I’m not going to comment on for either side) but in their NECESSITY to scorn others viewpoints and hold themselves superior. This condescending attitude is what makes a lot of people despise atheists. Rather than laughing at people you believe to be wrong, why don’t you just let them do what they want to do. By the way, very interesting list of quotes…very enjoyable read.

God is an atheist – Anonymous

‘The Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me’.
Galatians 2:20

Sike, theists! I bet you thought your god struck down this site! Ha ha ha ha!

Don’t confuse the Bible version of “God” with the Supreme Consciousness.

Fantastic list, subscribed to your rss.

you should put this george carlin quote, it works for everything, but mainly religion.

“At what point does all of this stuff just break down and become just a lot of stupid shit that somebody made up?”
-George Carlin

“followers following fables.
philosophies that enable them to rule without regard”

-nofx

@James:

Einstein’s own words: ” “It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal god and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it.”

Congratulations. You bore false witness. According to the bible you are going to hell.

interesting how this is a list of quotes, and yet people still try to *rebut your points* as if someone is trying to make an assertion for debate, which they are not. this is a list of athiest quotes, for the amusement of athiests, as clearly displayed in the links to it. so why are there *theists* here trying to argue? anyway, for the sake of ending debate on at a least one issue…
the truth about evolution – http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-misconceptions.html

Great read!!!!

Assuming these guys did not spend their lives following the Bible, Torah, Qur’an etc, I guess they’re sinners by default and will all (men, women, children, ancestors) go to hell. (usually the believer will include a not-very-merciful ‘haha’ at this point).

Assuming you do ‘believe’, then the above has to be either true or false.

If it’s true, then ‘god’ is monstrously unfair to his own creations, which makes a mockery of religion.

If it’s false and they’re off to heaven then that also makes a mockery of religion.

If I’m wrong then I’d like to know why.

We should get suspicious when told that this supreme, omniscient being wants us mortals to worship it.

(My style of writing may not be tasteful to some, it’s a little bit theatrical, but I am just been true to myself, no offense meant)

I pity the Fool:

You all sit here laughing and patting on your backs : hey guys we are all right not idiots like these Christians blah blah blah

Your 1st problem is that ALL of you live in a Christian country and they whipped your asses so hard you hated Christianity not just that but anything RELIGION !

OK if you didn’t get it by now Christianity is a COMMERCIAL/BRAINWASHING DOCTRINE simply false but doesn’t mean that there isn’t THE GOD

You are just CRY BABIES, why don’t you come clean and say I don’t want The Truth (THE GOD) because he has put rules to live by and I want to be “FREE” OK why you hot shots say to your Prof/Teacher hey buddy I don’t want to do the “Home Work”/”Assignment” ! or No to taxes or no to this and that … etc

If you haven’t noticed you show disobedience to an Authority (THE GOD) that you simply don’t see or that he punish you immediately to validate himself, which is by the Mercy of The GOD so you come here and rant all you want till death and have a chance to reach the truth and which Religion is right

Everyone knows that there’s a TEST PAPER in the end of any school term nobody have seen it ! actually you are not allowed to see it ! WHY ?

Because this is the TEST, you will not be allowed to cheat period if The GOD sent an angel now or even shows himself it will be THE END because you will know the answer to the PAPER TEST that has only ONE QUESTION (THE ULTIMATE QUESTION) : IS THERE THE GOD? () YES () NO !

You are a spec of dust in the vast universe, yet you want THE GOD to show himself to you (as the only acceptable proof to you) !

yet if you had a question to President Bush you accept that President BUSH will never come to you personally and knock your door to give you a piece of paper that has the answer to your question, yet you know for sure that the most going to happen is that he will if he want or that you are “CLOSE” enough to him is send a messenger with the letter , he could be the mail man

And that what THE GOD have done sent messengers the last was Prophet Mohamed (Peace be Upon Him) I challenge you if you take your lazy ass of the chair
and do all the research you want without any bias that you will find never the like of him , his life is so detailed and covered that even today with all the tech we can’t even know half the life of Celebs ! His life was an open book as the Holy Quran is an open book OPEN FOR ANY CHALLENGE , if you as so much care about the Truth is to judge for yourself by learning Arabic 1st (sorry nobody said the path to the Truth is easy, it’s just like any field of study YOU NEED TO DO
THE DAMN HOMEWORK!)

Remember that many of you are hypocrite with double standard (Thank you America!) as you (some maybe) believe in aliens who are watching ! and believe in dark matter and even you believed in the existence of atoms before you even be able to see the damn thing ???

Here’s just a simple solid proof:

1. Genetics ! : Genes are INFORMATION! A PROGRAM and is there A PROGRAM That writes itself ! in the end there must be A PROGRAMMER try arguing that with one (albeit some are atheist! double standard again, although every programmer is religious in a way or another, but again this shows that not everyone is able to know the truth even if it hit them on the face right on, like some people really think that there is a thing called Democratic Elections! you vote or not it’s the same )

Evolution has been for a long time debunked, all proofs here:

http://www.harunyahya.com/

Peace out

PS: I would love to see how are you going to rebuttal What I have said

The Douglas Adams quotes seems to be from his books and not said by him. It would be a shame if that casts a shadow on the rest of the quotes from other heavy name authors. Would be better to remove those. Otherwise a very good compilation. thanks.

Santa, The Tooth Fairy, The Easter Bunny, God, Honest Politician… when will you people grow up and realize that these are no more than fantastical tales told by fame seeking turds whom believed that the sun revolved around them and the world they walked on is flat.

When it comes to big time, major league, bullshit, you have to stand in awe of the all time champion of false promises and exagerated claims – Religion. Religion easily has the greatest bullshit story ever told. Religion has actually convinced people that there’s an invisible man, living in the sky, that watches everything you do, every minute of every day, and the invisible man has a list of 10 things that he does not want you to do, and if you do any of these 10 things then he has a place filled with fire and pain where he’ll send you to to live, and suffer, and choke, and scream, and cry forever and ever until the end of time… but he loves you. He loves you and he needs your money. Religion takes in billiions of dollars every year and pays no taxes. You’re buying the bullshit. I mean look around you at all the messed up shit going down. If this is the best that God can do then I am not impressed. Results like this do not belong on the résumé of a supreme being. This is the shit that you’d expect from an office temp with a bad attitude. In any decently run Universe this guy would be out on his ass a long time ago.

…with some help from George Carlin.

The most preposterous notion that H. sapiens has ever dreamed up is that the Lord God of Creation, Shaper and Ruler of all the Universes, wants the saccharine adoration of His creatures, can be swayed by their prayers, and becomes petulant if He does not receive this flattery. Yet this absurd fantasy, withouT a shred of evidence to bolster it, pays all the expenses of the oldest, largest, and least productive industry in all history.
-Lazarus Long, Time Enough for Love (Robert A. Heinlein)

Why we have wars? Why we have millions of kids suffering everyday somewhere on the planet(africa, usa, europe, india…), no food, no water and no home. God is watching, why he allow all these happen to his sheeps? Of course he is too busy to put the people into hell and questioning them before he can send them to heaven!! What a bullshit! The misery we live is because of all in name of god. F***ck it. Wake up and be in charge of your life.

Thank you for compiling these quotes! An awesome reference, I have bookmarked it and shared it with others.

think about the noahs arc if there were only 2 animals how the heck would they pro create without sleeping with their mother ezzz ppl are soooooo gulible

So if there is not GOD how was this word actually created? If someone can answer this question I would seriously doubt religion. I mean really think deep. How could the universe be created without a greater power?

“The Bible is many times an allegory, never a History book.”

That’s one of my own, and basically sums up my experiences so far.

hmmm… but is it really fair to label all these folks as atheists?

Take Nietzsche, for instance:

“Faith means not wanting to know what is true.”
-he is trying to trick you here. To Nietzsche, having a belief in anything means having faith in it. This is an essential feature of his criticisms on reason, rational justification, & intellectualism in general.

“In Christianity neither morality nor religion come into contact with reality at any point.”
-speaks for itself when you consider the ‘reality’ that Nietzsche alludes to through the whole of his works. ‘Reality’ in this sense is something completely unapproachable through human institutions and faculties, because it’s a made-up concept.

“Is man only God’s mistake or God only man’s mistake?” (better read this way)
-If you believe the former, Nietzsche would say that you belong to a system of beliefs that places God as the ultimate authority on reality. If you believe in the latter, he’d say that you belong to a system of beliefs which places SOMETHING ELSE as the ultimate authority on reality.

word.

still, I’m not certain Nietzsche had atheism in mind if you read these in context.

Not sure he had anything in mind, really. Syphilis does that.

RaB,

I see that you have a good question unfortunately Christianity will not be able to answer it because it’s not designed this way where utter fear and shame are some of it’s trade tools

I can answer your question from the perspective of Islam ( you are,of course, free to reject it. You have your life time to reach the answer to the one question by yourself)

In Islam it’s simple as this:

Have you received the message ? of course there’s lots of junk mail (false religions/doctrines etc copy cats !), but that’s YOUR HOMEWORK !

If yes you will be asked as to what you KNOW
If not like this tribe then don’t fret, but remember it’s almost impossible that no one receives the message as even they are isolated probably you’ll find that they have a form of religion (false or not)

And Children always go to haven, in fact there’s some interpretations that suggest (yes even as a Muslim it’s never over I have to read and educate myself there’s of course core tenants) that really everyone has until the age 40 then he/she will be judged on what he/she did after that as the age of 40 is the real maturity age (completeness of mind ) don’t you see that majority of the world including the USA has the age of 40 as a condition when running for Presidency ?

note: I like reading the opposite side and challenge myself as the whole point is to find the truth and when one finds it to admit it as really nobody have the right to judge another person simply because nobody knows another person like the person himself and of course THE GOD who hold the keys to heaven and hell

THE GOD didn’t create people to through them in hell

In fact in Islam the real problem on the judgment day is if you HARMED OTHERS even if you had mountains of good deed because THE GOD will judge fairly and take from the good deed to the one been harmed (in any wrong way) until he goes to heaven and if no good dead he takes from the sins of the one been harmed to put on the wrong doer and through him into hell

However if you commit outrageous sins (a.k.a abuses like alcohol , because you don’t own your body if you do please show me the receipt ) only toward yourself the THE GOD will forgive you of course if you believed in him

Peace out

Steven Colbert is not an atheist. I believe he is a catholic.

The only good points of the quotes is that it would wipe Mohammad from the face of the Earth.

ONE QUESTION Y/N – thanks for addressing my comment.

I’m not going to go through each point as I found them quite confusing, but I thought it was quite interesting that you opened with a swipe at Christianity.

To me this demonstrates one of the problems with religion. No matter how ‘tolerant’ & loving each claims to be, there simply cannot be room for more than one. And this leads to hatred.

On a side note, I find it funny that many religious people belittle science but are comfortable with their laptops, wireless, mobiles, central heating, microwave meals, medicines, mp3s, cars, planes…

Religion was invented to control the masses.

I myself, believe in the flying spaghetti monster ;-)

its kinda funny that one of the ads on this site is for an online muslim community.

but keep up the good work!

Excellent! You nailed it!

But aren’t we in the same situation with the “Big Bang”? What came before that? Isn’t the “Big Bang” theory just “religion”?

I’d like to add my favorite definition for “PRAY”: To ask that the laws of the universe be annulled on behalf of a single petitioner confessedly unworthy. — Ambrose Bierce

All of you claiming that christianity has started countless wars and such are all incorrect. The catholic church which claims to follow Christ yet does not even come close are the ones that started the wars and even killed evangellical christians at the time. Nowhere in the bible will you find Jesus telling people to kill other people or harm other people ever. Jesus taught to love your enemies and everyone as yourself.

I myself was brought up Catholic and as such became an athiest for most of my life up until last november. Then I was shown this http://ezinearticles.com/?Bible-Prophecy-Fulfilled:-Israel-1948&id=449317 .

Now a book predicting something happening and being very specific to the details(not like a lot of other prophecy that is very vague, Nostradomus, etc) 2500ish years before it happened perked my interest. So I started reading the bible(NIV) and God began revealing himself to me.

After about 5 months I had accepted that I was a sinner(we all have sinned, lied, stolen, etc) and I repented and accepted Jesus as my savior(Jesus did not sin but let himself be crucified as to become sin for us, he took our punishment)

“For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.” 2 Corinthians 5:21

Now after I had done this I felt I should find a church to attend to learn more. So having been brought up catholic and also reading a lot of “christian” material I knew many churches are corrupt. So I asked God to show me where I should go. So the next day something strange happened, there was nowhere to park on the street and there is always somewhere to park, this has never happened before. So anyway I am forced to park where my wife normally parks. On my way into the house I pass by the mailbox, now I have only once before since living at this residence taken in the mail before and this time my hands are full but for some reason I decide to grab the mail, and what do I end up grabbing? A Pamphlet for a Baptist church. I don’t know about you, but normally here christian churches do not go around hading out pamphlets for their chuch, especially for churches all the way on the other side of the city. So when I get to the church the pastor tells me that I am the first new person to come there there in a long time and yesterday he had just felt like he should drop off flyers on my block.

This is just one of the many miracles God has bestowed on me since following Jesus. Now there are going to be those that call this coincidence. Sure it could be, but even if this were the only case of this happening to me it is a very very long shot. But when start getting coincidences happening every time you pray you start to realize that they arent coincidences at all.

Now I know this is getting a bit long but this is the most important part. If you were to die tonight, would you go to heaven?

Every person that walks the face of the earth has done wrong. Have you ever told a lie? Have you ever taken something that was not yours? Have you ever had a bad thought? Everyone has done wrong.

“As it is written. There is none righteous, no, not one.” Romans 3:10
“For all have sinned and come short of the glory of God”

“For the wages of sin is death…” Romans 6:23a

“But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers(drug dealers/users for today), and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.” Revelation 21:8

We all know that we must die physically someday. After physical death, there is also spiritual death. We decide now, while we are living, the place where we will live after physical life- heaven or hell. The penalty for our sins is spiritual death in hell.

Fortuantely Jesus paid that penalty for us!

“But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us” Romans 5:8

“… but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.” Romans 6:23b

“For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.” John 3:16

“That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.”

So what happened there is that we had the death penalty(spiritual death) for our sins. Jesus came and lived without sin and yet he was punished and killed as a substitute for us, he is our pardon. The only way a pardon works though is if you accept it. Just as it is here on earth if you were on death row and got a pardon yet refused it they would still kill you it is the same for heaven.

I appologise for the length but it is needed for such an important subject. I will be praying for all of you that God will touch your heart so that you might become open to his word.

“Any deity worthy of being worshipped, would not want it.”

(me)

Great.
Marvellous.

“Religion is humanity’s rootkit” – Anonymous

This was awesome! Thanks for the quotes, this really made my day. It’s always nice to know you’re not the only one.

This has nothing to do with the post but anyways….
I would like to have the script for the banner on the upper part of the page, that displays a random atheist quote please…its great!
thanks, Saorok
beto_11493@hotmail.com

Quite a few of these people aren’t actually atheists (Mark Twain, Matthew Arnold and a couple others were practicing Christians). #20 is probably most to the point, and is the objection that many Christians (myself included) struggle with the most.

But aren’t we in the same situation with the “Big Bang”? What came before that? Isn’t the “Big Bang” theory just “religion”?

No.

The Big Bang is a theory for how the observable universe evolved from a exceedingly small and unobservable state to the Universe we observe today.

The Big Bang is not a religion, but refers to the fore-mentioned theory as well as the earliest observable state (the point where radiation was 1st able to propagate.

The material claims of Religion are based upon fabrication/imagination speculations that appear consistent, with known evidence, at the time and place they are embraced as doctrine, but as our knowledge improves much of religious doctrine is found to be faulty.

I find it unfortunate that organized Religion does not restrict itself to sentiments such as purpose, inspiration, desire, etc … if it must take a position of a material nature it should avoid that for which evidence exists and so as to avoid admitting that its doctrinal absolutes are false, it should limit its declarations of absolutes to what is other wise unknowable … meaning that which there can be no evidence of.

adults with imaginary friends are stupid

maybe this one is on here already (didn’t read all the comments)…A bumper sticker I saw once –

“I believe in life before death”

One of my favorites, simple and sweet. Why wait for the unknown, I’m enjoying it while I can!

It seems to me like many atheists are very bitter against “Christians” and not against religion in general. If that weren’t the case we would see MANY more atheists trying to point out how foolish being a Muslim is. 95% of atheists are just bitter because their parents made them attend a church that didn’t preach out of the bible anyways….we can thank the whole Christian community for that.

“I was brought up catholic and as such became an atheist”?? Is that a natural progression for catholics? Seems the vatican should look into that. The other part I don’t get is the 5 months between looking at a website containing a mathematically dubious ‘proof’ of the old testament and becoming born again. Did you have no exposure to the bible previously? Did you read a new, more compelling bible than the one with which you were raised? Indeed, what were the conditions last November that made you suddenly so receptive to fundamentalist christianity? In the years that you were an atheist, did you never critically appraise your transition from faith to reality? I’m of the opinion that for most people who were raised in some form of christianity, a shift to atheism is a natural progression of self awareness, education, and the development of critical thought. Eventually you must critique your own beliefs and christianity cannot stand up to this process. You may at that point choose to continue to believe in your chosen god, but you can no longer make that choice blindly. Did you skip this process? You can no more go from a position of atheism to a belief in a fundamentalist god than you can go from an understanding of modern medicine to a belief in the four humors. I don’t buy your story. I think you couldn’t handle the fact that there’s nothing beyond living the life you have now. Perhaps you fucked it up, wasted your education, squandered your youth – something caused you to engage in the hubris of believing you deserve more time and another chance. Even if that other chance is when you are dead…? Does that sound rational? And on a minor point, jesus didn’t live a life without sin (if sin is defined as breaking ‘gods’ rules), among his many indiscretions was a flagrant disregard for the cleanliness laws of the time, which involved going around touching women on their periods. He was more political activist than personal saviour, but given the time-frame in which the bible was written, people like you will be worshiping Che Guevara in 500 years. In all honesty, I doubt you’ve ever been an atheist and your presence here is tantamount to the WOW posts on Cracked.

Once upon a time there was a time and place for religion since science was unknown and the rulers needed a way to keep the people in line. But now here we are in a time where science actually proves things. I’m not sure about most but I find proof to be 100% more believable than some ancient word of mouth text that tells people to hate and discriminate instead of teaching that everyone is the same. Sure maybe jesus was a real person, but he was written into the bible years and years after he lived, his story was told word of mouth, and if my story was told word of mouth for centuries I too would have super powers. No use fighting with others about what they believe it’s pointless, just be true to yourself and use your mind to form what you believe.

Blindfold someone and tell them that the sun is blue. Despite not being able to see, they will always argue that it is red (or orange, or whatever color in that range) and will never be convinced otherwise.

“Is that a natural progression for catholics?” It is a natural progression for catholics that weigh and measure what they are being taught.

“The other part I don’t get is the 5 months between looking at a website containing a mathematically dubious ‘proof’ of the old testament and becoming born again. Did you have no exposure to the bible previously? Did you read a new, more compelling bible than the one with which you were raised? Indeed, what were the conditions last November that made you suddenly so receptive to fundamentalist christianity?”

What catholicism did in its inception is take christianity and merge it with paganism so that it would be more popular.

As for what happened with me in the 5 months is I read the bible for myself instead of just taking someones word for what it says. Almost all of what I was taught as a child in regards to what the bible says was actually in a lot of cases, the opposite of what it really says. Combine that with God overwhelming me with his spirit on 2 seperate occasions and many miracles that were witnessed(coincidences for all you non believers, even though the odds would be astronomical) I came to trust God.

“Eventually you must critique your own beliefs and christianity cannot stand up to this process”

If you consider catholocism christianity I will agree 100 percent with you.

“I’m of the opinion that for most people who were raised in some form of christianity, a shift to atheism is a natural progression of self awareness, education, and the development of critical thought.”

I find it amusing how most athiests seem to equate belief in God with stupidity. I am not putting you down for it I just find it interesting because I did the same thing. Being in the top 5% IQ wise I used to think I was so smart. In actuality we as humans know almost nothing when compared to the wisdom of God.

“18For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. 19For it is written:
“I will destroy the wisdom of the wise;
the intelligence of the intelligent I will frustrate. ” 1 Corinthians 1:18

” jesus didn’t live a life without sin (if sin is defined as breaking ‘gods’ rules), among his many indiscretions was a flagrant disregard for the cleanliness laws of the time, which involved going around touching women on their periods. ”

Jesus did not break any of Gods rules, he broke mans rules because they were claiming they were from God when in fact they had missed the whole point of all of them.

Matthew 15:
“1Then some Pharisees and teachers of the law came to Jesus from Jerusalem and asked, 2″Why do your disciples break the tradition of the elders? They don’t wash their hands before they eat!”
3Jesus replied, “And why do you break the command of God for the sake of your tradition? 4For God said, ‘Honor your father and mother’[a] and ‘Anyone who curses his father or mother must be put to death.’[b] 5But you say that if a man says to his father or mother, ‘Whatever help you might otherwise have received from me is a gift devoted to God,’ 6he is not to ‘honor his father[c]‘ with it. Thus you nullify the word of God for the sake of your tradition. 7You hypocrites! Isaiah was right when he prophesied about you:
8″ ‘These people honor me with their lips,
but their hearts are far from me.
9They worship me in vain;
their teachings are but rules taught by men.’[d]”

10Jesus called the crowd to him and said, “Listen and understand. 11What goes into a man’s mouth does not make him ‘unclean,’ but what comes out of his mouth, that is what makes him ‘unclean.’ ”

12Then the disciples came to him and asked, “Do you know that the Pharisees were offended when they heard this?”

13He replied, “Every plant that my heavenly Father has not planted will be pulled up by the roots. 14Leave them; they are blind guides.[e] If a blind man leads a blind man, both will fall into a pit.”

15Peter said, “Explain the parable to us.”

16″Are you still so dull?” Jesus asked them. 17″Don’t you see that whatever enters the mouth goes into the stomach and then out of the body? 18But the things that come out of the mouth come from the heart, and these make a man ‘unclean.’ 19For out of the heart come evil thoughts, murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false testimony, slander. 20These are what make a man ‘unclean’; but eating with unwashed hands does not make him ‘unclean.’ ”
”

“I doubt you’ve ever been an atheist and your presence here is tantamount to the WOW posts on Cracked.”

Well if you want to get technical about it I was agnostic, but I did constantly argue against Jesus and God in the same way you are doing now. After I had become a christian I began to ask myself why I felt such and need for argueing vs God and I came to realize that it was God wanting me to seek him out.

If you want to get even more technical about the athiest thing you’re not an athiest either. In order for you to know there is no God you would have to know everything about everything in existance.

Anyway my time can be more fruitfully spent by giving the message of God to more people than to refute all the eronius things you will say about my Lord. I just didn’t want others to be discouraged by your post in thinking that you had “beaten me” so that I just left. You are free to believe in nothing or whatever you like. Hey maybe you’re right(I don’t believe you are but I am a fallible human like yourself) and in which case nothing happens when we die, but if you’re the one that is wrong, you are in for an eternity of trouble. Now you seem to have some intelligence about you, would a smart person take that kind of risk? Now for those of you who will reiterate the guy above stating muslims could be right etc, I ask you, does their god deliver? I know mine does.

Seems to me to be a lot of arrogance from nothing but (supposedly)glorified apes, whose very existence is (supposedly)the result of random luck, whos very minds developed (supposedly)randomly, whos very thoughts(and thus arguments) could merely be (supposedly)random accidents and may in fact be nonsensical.

Yet these same people seem to think that religion, which has(as the quotes admit) been around since man, is just going to fade away, because of their clever wit, and superior intelligence. Alas, it is but the elite, few superior intellects who are here to “rid” of us our “crutch”, religion. Yet these same people believe that the very meaning of life is about doing what you please, and working for the good of all (supposedly)random people. How then is religion wrong?

Too bad im not clever. Too bad I lack understanding, knowledge and wisdom. Too bad im a fool. Mostly, too bad im not one of the elite few, those smarter people, who can so clearly see what the rest of us cannot. I guess when I die and (supposedly)turn into dirt and nothingness, you will have showed me.

On a less sarcastic note, I am not so arrogant to assume that I, as but a simple man, am so smart, so intelligent, so wise as to figure out what others could not. I am just thankful that God chose to open my eyes. Perhaps you should reconsider why you battle so hard against someone that (supposedly)does not exist.

It is amazing what man will believe in in order to not accept that he is responsible.

When the first thief met the first fool, the first priest was born (anonymous)

“A man without religion is just like a fish without a bicycle”, that’s my favorite, but I can remember who said it right now.

In response to Claire’s post, though I cannot in any way validate JesusisLord’s story, I do find your response to be frustratingly stocked full of the circular reasoning and assumed absolutes I tend to see in most atheistic statements. Stating that faith is the polar opposite to reason leaves no room for those of us that attempt to live our lives with an appropriate balance.

“Science without religion is lame; religion without science is blind.” (Albert Einstein)

It is easy to become disillusioned with Christianity because Christians are just as prone to hypocrisy as any other person. Hypocrisy is that much harder to forgive when it is accompanied by a self-righteous badge of honor, which many a Christian wield as well. Perhaps this was his/her reason for drifting from Catholicism? I can only guess.

I will say that, as much as I’d love to actually have a point by point discussion with someone who believes as you (Claire) do, the atheist v. Christian argument suffers from the fact that both sides think that the other is stupid/silly for their conclusions, which tends to erode any semblance of rational discussion to name-calling and ad hominem arguments.

~shrugs~

I still like Nietzsche’s “God is dead. We have killed him, you and I” though you had some really good ones I never knew

Absolutely brilliant.

Thank you very much.

I’m normally not a praying man, but if you’re up there, please save me Superman.

I have one for you, one with i came up some time ago, i think i never seen it anywhere, but it’s pretty much defined into these lines:

Humans belive in God, because they can’t on Themselves.

One of my favorites:

“Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able, and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God.” – Epicurus, 33 A.D.

Leave Jesus on his cross, he likes it there-Don Juan Matus

We’ve almost got proof that it wasn’t god! http://www.reuters.com/article/scienceNews/idUSLP70881820080825

These are really interestin quotes. The list could go on and on though. I’m going to take this list of quotes and write a little perl script that randomly displays a new one each day on my facebook status.

This is a touchy subject, obviously, but I understand the writer posted these items just for the interest of his readers and not to turn anybody to the “dark” side (l0l).

Atheists could care less if christians or any other religion for that matter goes on in their dronning boring lives. Atheism is an answer to religions attempt to convince; Not a tactic to convert the, so called, “faithful”.

After all, if a christian “sins” it plays heavy on their conscience for a while and they have to pay for it someday. Also, the likeliness they’ll commit the same sin again is very high. If I “sin”… well… I just sin. Sucks to be religious.

What religious people can’t seem to take away from this is that there is nothing dividing the atheists from the theists. Atheists just choose a life of proof rather than mystery.

Ps. pre-marital sex rocks, to the gays: go fuck as many dudes as you want, I’ll still be your friend (just wash your hands).

“I slept with faith and found a corpse in my arms on awakening; I drank and danced all night with doubt and found her a virgin in the morning.”
-Aleister Crowley

“If one were to take the bible seriously one would go mad. But to take the bible seriously, one must be already mad.”

-Aleister Crowley

To all the pious scientitist, this is for you.

“Science is always discovering odd scraps of magical wisdom and making a tremendous fuss about its cleverness.”

-Aleister Crowley

the difference between science and religion is:
- you can predict the behavior of the subject in the past and in the future by applying theories based on mathematical, chemical and physical rules which are also based on proved theories (therefore we’ve got all the technologies, because we know how certain substances, materials systems will behave if we put them in certain environment). all theories are based on predicting the behavior. big bang theory, given the state at the beginning, can predict the things we see now in our lives and the universe.
- religion does not predict anything. of course you can speculate and call as prediction, for example – if you don’t hurt anyone and do pray god for 14828 times you’ll get to paradise. but prediction should be measurable, like the case with the universe. you cannot see or hear from people in paradise, moreover, there is no theory that predicted the existence of paradise. you can say god created the universe – thats the theory. please, provide me a mechanism, list of calculations, set of rules or anything based on proved theory, using which I can came to that conclusion. science does that, why cannot you?

This list seems to treat belief as binary. Is it not possible that both Theists and Atheists are incorrect and that the truth is different to either?

From our perspective I suppose it is not possible as you either believe or do not believe a God of some kind exists. However when speaking of something which we do not know to be limited by the rules of reason we are ourselves governed by I cannot see why Theism and Atheism should be the only options we consider to be ‘true.’ Instead I choose to believe that the only thing we should accept as ‘true’ is the incomprehensible nature of what we are trying to describe with Religion and Logic, both of which seem inapplicable to the task they have undertaken. (Naturally there are religions with more than one God that are neither Theism or Atheism but it should be clear that this is not the point I’m making.)

Well, I know some people have said things like
“Oh this is based on superstition, or this is based on fact.”
Then they dismiss other peoples opinions by saying things like
“What I am trying to say is, that many of your statements are build on misunderstandings heavily influenced by your subjective opinion and/or faith.”

Well, everything is on faith at one level or another.. We have faith that 1+1=2. Why doesn’t 1+1=50? Because some person came up with an idea, and made it stick. It then became a “fact” and is one of the core fundamentals of society.

“After all, if a christian “sins” it plays heavy on their conscience for a while and they have to pay for it someday. Also, the likeliness they’ll commit the same sin again is very high. If I “sin”… well… I just sin. Sucks to be religious.”

Actually you have it backwards. Jesus died for my sins. He paid my penalty for sinning 2000 years ago for all my sins. However I do try to live as Jesus did because that is what he commands. You on the other hand will have to pay for your sins, unless ofcourse you someday put your faith in Christ.

“What religious people can’t seem to take away from this is that there is nothing dividing the atheists from the theists. Atheists just choose a life of proof rather than mystery.”

Again here you are completely off base. Nearly every athiest I have debated with has a blind faith in science. They take unproven THEORIES(theories are NOT fact) and claim them to be absolute truths (ie. evolution). Also I am all for science, provided it is something that is actually truth and not just a theory. Another thing I would like to mention is that God does show himself to faithful christians. It isn’t that I hope for God to exist, I know God exists beause he has shown me he does. “prove it” you say? Well God does not give proof that is tangible, if he did then people would not need to have faith.

On a final note, when athiests try to convert christians, and I know you said they don’t do that, but they most certainly do, they have nothing to offer other than sin. They only thing I lose as a christian is my willingness to do wrong. However with true christians when they tell you these things they do it out of love for you. We have the most valuable treasure there is, eternal life, and we want to spread that message to everyone so that nobody has to go to hell.

“In hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie, promised before the world began; ” Titus 1:2

Awesome posting!!! However, the muslima.com banner on the bottom of the page seems a little bit out of place?

Religion is but another separating identifier, a divisive control set down by the ruling class, the hidden Oligarchy to keep the common people from uniting against them for the benefit of all.

A wonderful listing, thank you.

JesusisLord
You said we (atheists) take science on blind faith.
“They take unproven THEORIES(theories are NOT fact) and claim them to be absolute truths (ie. evolution).”

You are so right, theories are not fact, they are not meant to be facts, they are meant to describe the facts as science KNOWS them at this moment in time.
Are you so ignorant, as many people are that you don’t even know what a theory is?
This is what is wrong with our world today. People are all ways arguing from ignorance, as are you.
Science is all we have, it is the only truth, and unlike your bible it is self correcting. When your bible tells us that the earth is flat or that rabbits chew their cud, what are christians to do?
The earth is not flat and rabbits do not chew their cud, did your bible correct it’s self? NO!. The Bible is wrong on so many issues and so many facts that it is hard for anyone who has actually read it to believe.
The best argument for atheism is the bible. Anyone who has actually read it with an open mind has no choice but to throw it out as bullshit. Anyone who has read it with an open mind knows that what little good there is in the bible, and yes there are a few good points in the bible, can be done without the religious bullshit that it requires.
Thnak you
Anfd please read some science books and try to educte yourself. There is nothing that looks worse than arguing from ignorance.

Evolouie

the only bad thing about being an atheist is that you don’t get any holidays.

Wow, Wow, and Wow!

“Well, everything is on faith at one level or another.. We have faith that 1+1=2. Why doesn’t 1+1=50? Because some person came up with an idea, and made it stick. It then became a “fact” and is one of the core fundamentals of society.”

1+1=2 not because we believe in that, but because it’s discovered it works no matter what in all the cases. Like in the first grade – take one apple from John another from Clair and you got 2 apples. Of course these numbers are just the representation of apples and things we describe like the language, but people cannot communicate without a language. It’s not that the number 1 itself makes the rule, it describes, represents the real world which seems to be working like 1+1=2. And the main thing about that is – if you (anyone) can learn the language, you can describe things yourself, make much more complicated equations eventually discover something new, predict behavior of particles and you’ll see it’s working the way you predicted. Language of numbers and formulas is like translating the nature in the way we can understand it. And it works, you don’t have to believe it, just check it.

“It isn’t that I hope for God to exist, I know God exists beause he has shown me he does. “prove it” you say? Well God does not give proof that is tangible, if he did then people would not need to have faith.”

Hod did he show that to you? Why didn’t he show that to everyone? You could say you have to have faith and then he’ll show he exists. It sounds something similar to schizophrenia, you trick your brain in order to get tricked by your brain. Why people would not need to have faith if there was a proof? People got faith in their country, president and other things. Of course it’s easier to loose faith if you are familiar with something you believe, for example president. But aren’t we the ones to choose to have faith? Why should we blindly believe?

“We have the most valuable treasure there is, eternal life, and we want to spread that message to everyone so that nobody has to go to hell.”
What will you do when eternal life begins? What did you do before this life’s beginning? I’m not so sure it’s the most valuable treasure, simply because it doesn’t make sense. You know, I can tell you a secret – there is nothing after you’re dead, nothing! Live this life as good as you can and you wouldn’t have to be sorry about that when you’ll be close to death. People’s mind is corrupted with ideas of boarders, start and finish, larger or smaller etc, that’s because we are living in such environment where everything can be put in those frames. We just cannot face that there can be nothing, our perception doesn’t allow that. Therefore things like hell, paradise, god and tooth fairies are made in our minds.

It’s not exactly an atheist quote, but I find it cute anyway:
“Does God really loves us, or is it just a sex story?”

Sorry for the sloppy translation, I read the original in italian.

One of my favourite quotes for the collection

“The truth may be out there, but the lies are inside your head” by Terry Pratchett, in one of his Discworld novels

You know that Theism is more rational than Atheism? It’s true, because there is good evidence for God. Such as: http://operation513.blogspot.com/2008/07/kalam-cosmological-argument-for-gods.html

“Religion is man’s attempt to make music out of the noise of the universe.” -Anonymous

Great quotes from obviously intelligent people, whom have all left a mark on our past, and future by using thier brains and not “faith”.
I remember the last time I was “forced” to go to church and hear the word of “God”. It went something like this: God-Blah, God- Blah Blah, God Blah Blah Blah! I’d like to thank the preacher for clearing everthing up for me!

Religion is make believe. Oh you silly believers. Not that it’s wrong or anything, but it is good to use your imaginations every once in a while. It stimulates creativity, something that comes from your right brain. You know, that grey and white bundle of neurons with its functions figured out by continuous research that can be replicated all around the world unlike some fictional invisible man in the sky that sends people to a very warm place because he loves you and expects you to throw money at him.

“For the sceptic, no proof is enough. For the fundamentalist….no proof is needed. And the latter is by far the more dangerous.”

- Dr. Philip Jennings

Atheism is a religion where man plays God and worships himself…but who would worship a God that dies?

“Nothing exploded and became everything” – the Dawkins delusion.

Daniel,

Do you see any difference betwean “Nothing exploded and became everything” and “We-don’t-know-what exploded and became everything”?

Q. How long will a preacher preach?
A. As long as you pay him.

Ahh, the blind arrogance of man, from either side…

Science is not reality… Science is a set of models… Evolution is a model… Once the model seems to fit pretty well, our arrogance tells us, “We NOW understand what is going on…”, when in fact, the model and reality are two VERY different things no matter how well the model predicts things…

Evolution is a magical process… Something beyond our understanding is happening through it… We can model the processes at work, since no matter how magical it is what is truly going on, the point at which it crosses into the material world it becomes material and measurable…

Evolution is absolutely a viable theory, but do not look at Evolution and think that we somehow understand the cause or reason behind the process… We can understand its mechanical manifestations to some extent, but not the reason for its existence… We also will be waiting a long time for a scientist to stand up and say, “Hey we figured out how evolution makes great leaps, like the emergence of self-consciousness…”

To look at religion as it stands today, whose origins were from very different times and have been twisted into a power and control apparatus, it is very easy to come to the conclusion that it is all false… I know I felt that way at 10 yrs old… I became an atheist and stayed an atheist for many years…

After seeing his name mentioned in someone else’s quote from Robert Anton Wilson, I strongly suggest reading some of G.I. Gurdjieff’s work, as well as all of Robert Anton Wilson’s writings… If only to provide more food for thought in yourself on reality and all its weirdness…

I’m sorry so many of you have had bad experiences with Christians. I’m praying for you.

Jesus loves everyone, especially atheists, homosexuals, murderers and prostitutes. He died on the cross so they can all get close to HIM. So that the overly-religious could open their minds and hearts; so they could love the ones Jesus loves. To this date, however, the overly-religious still don’t get it and tend to be greatest cause of atheism. Why does the love-scorned woman stop believing in love? Because a HUMAN let her down. Why do atheists not believe in God? Because HUMANS let them down. Everyone here talks about needing tangible evidence of God’s existence, yet everyone has dismissed HIM after merely a few attempts at reaching him. As I understand it, the scientific method requires many attempts with some sort of control factor. I have not heard one person say they tried to seek God for themselves, on a consistent basis over a pre-determined period of time. If you were to do so and sought out God via prayer, reading the Bible, and maybe even attending some church services, I believe you would have yourself a bit of an experiment, would you not? Rather than relying on the data of a scientist who likely couldn’t care less about you, you can catalog your own set of data in your own mind in this manner. Now I cannot predict the outcome of your experiment, but I can tell you that you’ll have a clearer picture about God than before. It may even serve to further affirm your denial of God’s existence. Fair enough? Oh wait, here’s the thing though. Some may not understand the fact that prayer and religion is not a way to manipulate God. The thing about God is, He created us, not the other way around. He does not bind himself to the parameters we may set. If you ask him for an answer to your inquiry, he may answer it immediately, later, or much later. In either event, you’ll have an answer, but don’t jump to any conclusions so quickly. A lot of times atheists become atheists because they didn’t get what they wanted out of God. Some ask “why did he answer that guy’s prayer and not mine?” Well what if everyone prayed to God for a million dollars and God gave a million dollars to everyone? A million dollars would not be as valuable, right? It would lose its significance. A million dollars only means something if there are zero dollars. If not everybody has a million dollars, then those who do not have the money appreciate its value more. If we did not have light, we would not understand the meaning of darkness. Why does got allow suffering, death and other bad things? So we can appreciate what is good. We know that the pain we feel while exercising will make our body stronger later. What about our soul? What strengthens that? So God did not give you the answer you wanted. Maybe what you desired was to your detriment and would hurt you in the long run. You wanted it so bad and did not get it, so you immediately dismiss God after one or two tries. Not very scientific. God gets confused with Santa Claus half the time, and people grow bitter because they never got their way. Don’t forget, he’s the higher being (at least that would be part of the hypothesis in this experiment). One last thought: A lot of people proselytized into Christianity lived their prior life as if no God existed. Once they experienced God, they realized that a life of casual sex, alcoholism, homosexuality, etc. was hollow, aimless and pointless. A great amount of recently converted Christians (see China, growth of Christianity in) once lived an empty life devoted to a false set of principles. Now they willingly risk government persecution to live a life filled with freedom from sin and its consequences. In spite of the consequences they may suffer at the hands of the government.

It’s not that I don’t believe in God, It’s I just don’t care.

Call me what you will, but all the high minded people in the world will try to convince me follow their beliefs (or nonbeliefs as the case my be), but your God or your science won’t help me change the flat tire on my truck.

My own interpretation of the bible,

The bible is a book written over 2000 years ago by basicaly half a dozen or so fishermen, they only gave their first names (John of Nazereth, like there was only one of them) and were of no fixed address. Believable, I think not…..

Very enjoyable – it’s always gratifying to read intelligent quotes, though my favourite on the subject is this one:

“Since my earliest recollections, adults told me that God and Santa Claus were real. Then one day they confessed they had lied about one of them. I prayed, and prayed, and prayed, yet still they told me it was Santa.” – Steven Fisher

This is a nice list – thanks Adrian!
I find it tiresome walking around people who deserve to be woken up, but they seem to choose to remain zombies in their religious trance.

Dave from SD – I love the rootkit comment – very accurate :)

peace out!

It is so funny listening to religious people or “theists” try to defend themselves intelectually. It is like when a drunk person trys to tell you that they are sober. it is laughable. Your whole argument is based on NOTHING! It always falls apart because the foundation of what you are saying is based on the assumption that your imaginary friend is real. PERIOD. You aren’t really at our level, like when you joke around with a 3 year old,we just smile and label you retarded:) The problem with anyone born with a great brain and strong religious beliefs ingrained,and i feel bad for you, your brain must always be telling you that you are wrong, and you must ignore your true feelings and thoughts because of a societal or family convention, like a midwestern closet homosexual. Use the brain that god gave you…HAHA:)!

Clearly, atheism is not a rational worldview. It is self-refuting because the atheist must first assume the opposite of what he is trying to prove in order to be able to prove anything. As Dr. Cornelius VanTil put it, “[A]theism presupposes theism.” Laws of logic require the existence of God—and not just any god, but the Christian God. Only the God of the Bible can be the foundation for knowledge (Proverbs 1:7; Colossians 2:3). Since the God of Scripture is immaterial, sovereign, and beyond time, it makes sense to have laws of logic that are immaterial, universal, and unchanging. Since God has revealed Himself to man, we are able to know and use logic. Since God made the universe and since God made our minds, it makes sense that our minds would have an ability to study and understand the universe. But if the brain is simply the result of mindless evolutionary processes that conveyed some sort of survival value in the past, why should we trust its conclusions? If the universe and our minds are simply the results of time and chance, as the atheist contends, why would we expect that the mind could make sense of the universe? How could science and technology be possible?

Rational thinking, science, and technology make sense in a Christian world view. The Christian has a basis for these things; the atheist does not. This is not to say that atheists cannot be rational about some things. They can because they too are made in God’s image and have access to God’s laws of logic. But they have no rational basis for rationality within their own world view. Likewise, atheists can be moral, but they have no basis for that morality according to what they claim to believe. An atheist is a walking bundle of contradictions. He reasons and does science, yet he denies the very God that makes reasoning and science possible. On the other hand, the Christian world view is consistent and makes sense of human reasoning and experience.

Clearly, atheism is not a rational worldview. It is self-refuting because the atheist must first assume the opposite of what he is trying to prove in order to be able to prove anything. As Dr. Cornelius VanTil put it, “[A]theism presupposes theism.”
This is true in that if no one believed in god (theism) then no one would be called an atheist. But that hardly means anything.
If everyone had the same color hair, you’d never note that either.

Laws of logic require the existence of God—and not just any god, but the Christian God. Only the God of the Bible can be the foundation for knowledge (Proverbs 1:7; Colossians 2:3).

wow how circular/bootstrap is that? I’m right because this book says I’m right and the book is right because I wrote the book.

Hail Xenu.

anthony – completely true #233! Jesus proved it in #234.

I’m curious, do atheists reject the idea that there COULD be a God of some kind, or do they just reject all of the current religeous depictions of God?

What if there is a God, but none of the current religeions accurately describe him. What if God is something we can’t even comprehend?

Which one of you atheists knows how the “Big Bang” started?

Here’s a quote I made up. I hate the ‘no atheists in a fox hole quote’. It’s popular but doesn’t take the a look at the other side of the coin. So here’s my rebuttal:
“If there are no atheists in a foxhole, then there are no believers in a hospital” -me.

Awesome quotes.

“It’s not that I don’t believe in God, It’s I just don’t care.Call me what you will, but all the high minded people in the world will try to convince me follow their beliefs (or nonbeliefs as the case my be), but your God or your science won’t help me change the flat tire on my truck”.

Well listen to yourself. If you were God, would you help you fix a flat tire?

Perhaps the greatest mystery of all is why an atheist who has no belief in the existence of god would exert such effort in the discussion of something which clearly does not exist. Go figure!

Love these quotes. Here are some of my favourites:

*When you understand why you dismiss all the other Gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours. – Stephen Roberts

*I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ. – Gandhi.

*Don’t pray in my school and I won’t think in your church.

*I am against religion because it teaches us to be satisfied with not understanding the world. – Richard Dawkins

*If you can believe in a God that required no creator, why is there any difficulty in accepting a universe that has no creator?

*Agnostics are just athiests without balls. – Stephen Colbert ;)

* If people are good only because they fear punishment, and hope for a reward, then we are a sorry lot indeed.” – Albert Einstein

*Philosophy is questions that may never be answered. Religion is answers that may never be questioned.

*We must question the story logic of having an all-powerful God, who creates faulty humans, and then blames them for his own mistakes. – Gene Roddenberry

*That sounded like a prayer. A prayer in a public school! God has no place within these walls! Just as facts have no place within organized religion. – Homer J. Simpson

*I like how scientific explanations with plausible evidence is ridiculous but a mythical being magically poofing the world into existence makes perfect sense (to you).

*Christianity was wrong about the solar system. What if it’s wrong about something else, too?

All the best!

Bungle

@fleethwwrath:
Have you looked at our world lately? Religion is screwing it up for us regular folks. The question should be: Why have we remained silent for so long?

fleethwwrath,
Perhaps it’s because you infringe up on our rights.
Perhaps it’s because you force you belief up on us.
Perhaps it’s because your church prospers at our expense.

Or maybe it’s just because your belief/religion is harming our once great country.

Fine quotes.

I’m amused that when it comes to the love of an imaginary friend, such love encompasses the whole of creation, the Universe and beyond, yet those things for which we will burn eternally are extraordinarily microcosmic and humanocentric in nature. For example, surely there are BILLIONS as many sins in the Universe than just those on this one planet. How come those other sins aren’t in the Big Book o’ Sin?

Does that mean each planet has its OWN Big Book o’ Sin? If that’s the case, then how can we be so sure we have the right one? I mean, what if we got someone else’s by mistake? Isn’t that alone enough to warrant diverting some of those religious donations to space exploration — to compare Sin Lists?

I would think so.

(mainlined directly from the sweet, sweet weasel juice of http://www.petting-zoo.org/Essays/ )

All hail Aten the one true god, or however you call the presence, be it Jehovah or Allah or numerous others they are all the same.

Do not try to look upon the presence as your eyes will be blinded by the light.

But you must believe as it flies above us each day of east to west, it never fails. It brings our light, our warmth, our food. It chases the evil nasty things that lurk in the dark away to their hide-e-holes where they cower in it’s glory.

This is our God, never forget and have faith that tomorrow he will shine on us again.

What about this secenario which has my theist friend confused…
Child:”Daddy, is nanny in heaven with god?”
Theist answer: “Yes, she’s watching over us now and we’ll be with her again one day”
Atheist answer: “No, nanny is gone forever. But we’ll never forget her, all that she taught us and the good times she shared with us”
Which answer is really better for the child?
According to my theist friend no child would be able to accept the atheist answer. I can’t say because I haven’t had a chance to try this out, but I will when the need arises (hopefully not too soon!)

Is your child’s nanny going to have an accident? ;)

What do you think happens to all the children in the world who were raised atheists and who have lost a father, a mother, a sibling, a grandmother, a friend or a pet? Nothing. They grief and go on with their lives. Give children a bit more credit, they can handle the truth. Why poison their minds with BS? Sooner or later they will ask the right questions and find out you lied to them. You don’t spare them grief you’re just delaying it.

“I do not fear death. I had been dead for billions and billions of years before I was born, and had not suffered the slightest inconvenience from it.” – Mark Twain

Another one of my favourite quotes:

Now, I know that most religious folk are moderate and reasonable and wear tidy jumpers and eat cheese, like real people. And on hearing this they’ll mainly feel pity for me, rather than issue a death sentence. But they have to accept that they are the power base for the nutters. Without their passive support the loonies in charge of these faiths would just be loonies, safely locked away and medicated — somewhere nice with a view of some trees where they can claim they have a direct channel to god between sessions making tapestry, drinks coasters, watching Teletubbies and talking about their days in the Hitler Youth. The ordinary faithful make these vicious, tyrannical thugs what they are. See, I get angry that shows like Celebrity and Big Brother and insert-title-of-wretched-show-here still fill our lives with vapid, pointless emptiness, and I wish the producers and development executives would crawl back under the rocks they emerged from, but the truth is they sell stuff that people consume. Without the audience to prop it up, Heat magazine and fundamental religious fanaticism goes away. Imagine what humanity might be capable of if we had that much spare time! We could explore space properly, have decent look in the sea, find a cure for James Blunt, anything! ~ Marcus Brigstocke

I did not read all the comments so this may have already been said. the religious take offense to this. everyone else just thought it was fun to read….I think that speaks for itself

“You can’t convince a believer of anything; for their belief isn’t based on evidence, but a deep-seated need to believe.” Carl Sagan, the greatest mind to ever walk this strange world

Clearly, atheism is not a rational worldview. It is self-refuting because the atheist must first assume the opposite of what he is trying to prove in order to be able to prove anything. As Dr. Cornelius VanTil put it, “[A]theism presupposes theism.”

Man, do people really think this?

Say my supervisor runs into my office and declares there’s a pickle on my desk and I tell him “No, there is no pickle on my desk. There is no evidence of a pickle on my desk. There is no receipt for me buying a pickle and putting it on my desk. There is no copy of the book ‘Pickles on my Desk ARE my Bag, Baby.’ Overall pickle count: zero.” At that moment, my supervisor’s a bit of a nut. BUT, if he INSISTS that there MUST be a pickle on my desk because otherwise I wouldn’t make such a fuss, then he has gone dangerously nutter.

Now, I don’t mind if people are nutters — it makes the world a more interesting place. I just mind when they think that their form of nutter somehow matters when they are making government policy, or when they are trying to decide whether or not to knock on my door or waste my time whining about how they’re persecuted by other nutters.

Excellent post! Very thought provoking. But then, I guess it would provoke thought only in rationalists like us, not within religious bigots who are immune to reason.

Your eyes don’t actually see anything. Your brain interprets the light hitting your retina. So if you think about it, you are not really reading this page, on a computer screen with your eyes, you are just imagining what it looks like. And just as interesting, we all seem to agree on the same belief of what this looks like.

It could just as well be that matter and energy are no different from thought. But it could very well be that matter and energy only exist because we agree they exist and that the only thing that does exist is our imagination that all this is real and our agreement on that with each other. The universe exists because we agree it does.

But we don’t all agree that God exists, thus, he probably doesn’t. Everything we do agree on, does exist. Everything we don’t agree on, doesn’t exist for all of us.

So, this page of computer text exists because we all agree it does. The sky is blue because we all agree it is blue. We drive in cars and walk down sidewalks because we all agree those things exists, agree where they are, and we all imagine them together. But if we don’t all agree about God, how can he exist if we are unable to imagine him, but we can imagine the universe itself?

@Epiphany >>>
Wow – it’s like that just came out of a matrix movie. I don’t see the code – I see the people inside the code. Get real would you! I hate it when religious nut jobs try to rationalize their irrational beliefs. Interpreting light signals and imagining something are two totally different aspects. A blind person isn’t blind, because they don’t have an imagination. Imagining I’m on a white, sandy beach doesn’t make it so, just as imagining an invisible man is watching over you doesn’t make it so.

Atheists believe that nothing is impossible, only mathematically implausible. Cause and effect is hard wired into us. We therefore believe that every effect must have a cause. So when this guy named jesus rose from what everyone thought was death, they weren’t knowledgeable enough to find the cause. He didn’t recover from a coma, he came back from the dead – to play the lead character in a game called Resident Evil.

These are awesome
thanks so much!!!

I asked my born again Christian friend once. Is it easier to be faithful and pious in 5 months or 50 years. The obvious answer was 5 weeks of course. Then I asked her whether she truly believes in the power of God, that he is above all medical science and technology. The answer was yes. So I said to her that the next time she falls ill, instead of seeking medical help, she should pray instead. And let no doubt into her mind for that might seemed to be testing “God”. If she recovers, it is his will for you to continue this life. If she dies, she goes to heaven. For going to heaven, first you must die. Without medicine, surely, the testing journey on earth will be greatly shorten thus leading to a faster passage to paradise. But this concept should not enter her mind, for as I said before, will be ‘testing’ God’s will. Just trust that his power and will is above that of any medical science would be true and pious no?
Of course she knew I wasn’t asking her to be suicidal in the event that she does fall sick. But at least it made her think.

For I, the atheist, wish the better of this world. But you, the religious, wish the end of it.

I LOVE EDWARD CULLEN~!!!!!!!!
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I am an Atheist…and no one can do SHIT about it!!^^
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this stuff is wonderful? haha. I just hope more peopel realizeit until religions, fundementalist ones, get to them first!

I am an atheist not because of quotes but because i did research of the beginnings of Christianity. Most religions have a common root which they stem from, Sun Worship. Thats why Jesus has a “halo” in most paintings to instill that idea in people. That is also why Easter is at the time of the year it is, The Spring equinox and Xmas is 3 days after the the Winter Solstice. What i usually say to Christians is to research or ask their pastor why the easter bunny and hiding eggs is in their Easter tradition and the light will come on their mind.
I understand how people get upset by atheists imposing our will on them, we will never win that argument because they have been inculcated with their doctrine for ages. You have to persuade Theist to do their own research. At worst we have millions of people doing what they think God wants them to so it makes the world a better place. I say that maybe the world needs religion for social structure and keeping people in line.
Hoewever, I find it amusing how poeple want to be like Jesus but yet are not Jews. He was preaching the gospel of his father from the eyes and and culture of a Jewish man. The old testament. A lot of the miracles he performed are metaphors for teaching someone or giving light to someone. i.e making a blindman see.
In any case, you have to ask the Theist if they want the RED or GREEN pill like in “the Matrix” that way they can be unplugged from the Matrix i call religion, and look at the world from their new eyes and senses. lol!
But damnit if these quotes aint funny..lol!

“If you blindly follow his word without asking any questions or demanding to understand the logic behind it, you are, my friend, going against all democratic beliefs of society. We have a word for rulers that do that, they are called dictators.” -Carl Allen

@S.o.G. — Brilliant!

I’ll say something here. When you take a moment and realize you are essentially an organized collection of the same elements and atoms stars are made of, and that all of those materials, currently arranged just right for you to be “you” were actually once inside a star which has since exploded, you become aware of the fact you are the universe contemplating its own existence.”

This is the type of contemplation Einstein spoke of in his “Credo,” where he said:

“The most beautiful and deepest experience a man can have is the sense of the mysterious. It is the underlying principle of religion as well as of all serious endeavour in art and science. He who never had this experience seems to me, if not dead, then at least blind. To sense that behind anything that can be experienced there is a something that our minds cannot grasp, whose beauty and sublimity reaches us only indirectly: this is religiousness. In this sense I am religious. To me it suffices to wonder at these secrets and to attempt humbly to grasp with my mind a mere image of the lofty structure of all there is.”

@ ONE QUESTION Y/N

I’m sorry buddy, but it’s not either, “Yes, a god exists,” or “No, a god does not exist.”

It’s “No human being who ever walked the face of this Earth knows.” And none can know. You’d do well for yourself to step outside of your little box and do some thinking of your own. Use your OWN mind and contemplate. Ponder. Wonder what’s out there, and where it all came from, and why.

This is what humanity did 2,000 years ago and decided to invent a new god (much like many others before) to explain the unknowns. Don’t fall into that trap. It’s unnecessary. Life is precious. Embrace it.

That is atheism in its rawest form.

There are tens of thousands of other gods that humans believe in. And as was said above…when you understand why you dismiss all those other gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.

i love it,
oh and my own little quote, “I know two people named Jesus. The indian cab driver, and some loser who claimed to be the God that thousands claimed to be.”

I understand why I dismiss all the other gods. There is only one true God.
So according to “Charlie E”, now I also understand the atheist’s point of view. They believe in only one true God too. Doesn’t that defeat the purpose of being an atheist?

@Hayter
Yea, I already know he doesn’t speak for all atheists. There are factions of atheists. They have strong beliefs about the truth of their position.

Don’t you think your description of atheists is starting to sound like another religion?

“snipemunky: Don’t you think your description of atheists is starting to sound like another religion?”

You seem to be against atheism which makes me think you are a theist. Are you saying religion is bad? That doesn’t help you as a theist.
So why are you trying to prove atheism is a religion? Do you think we – atheists should deny ourselves? Maybe you’re hoping atheists will start fighting each other because theists cannot fight us… I can just say – atheist is against any kind of religion and you have no any reason to make it religion. Of course we can discuss division of atheist “types” etc, but that’s not the reason all these discussions are made. The main reason why atheists exists and we discuss these things, is because there are groups of people believing in some fairy tale, telling it’s the only truth, spreading and forcing other people to believe in that. That’s sick if you opened your eyes, and that’s the biggest problem! There is no such problem – “how do we call people against religion?”. I can’t stand adults forcing children to believe in God. Don’t you think it’s wrong? It’s OK if you say “There are couple of opinions how our universe is created: 1) God did everything and that’s written in the book, 2) Scientific version – also can be found in other books, but that’s really complicated and you have to study a lot in order to understand that. You also can learn basic things science is based on and prove to yourself they are really describing our world.” Let them choose what to believe and you’ll see after couple of decades there will be no theists anymore. And thousands of minds would be set free and we could explore our universe as never before, without dogmas and restrictions.
Last thing – I’ve always wondered how religion is adopting/evolving over time. At first God lived in heaven and the earth was flat. Now God is somewhere else as we’ve explored heaven and some churches even apologizes to Darvin for “not understanding him 200 years ago” :). It looks like there is no place for religion on this planet and it will vanish in time – that’s inevitable, so chose carefully what to believe in.

Why is it that all theses theists go to google and type in “atheist quotes” (which is what i did cuz they are interesting.)

If they typed in this in to google to see our point of view (rather than just to make an arguement) then that would be fine, i have attended a christian, catholic, and jewish church and synagogue, because im interested in other peoples views, im okay with people believing what they want to, but not if they dont carefully think about it themselves. i am an atheist because when i was a kid and my parents told me santa wasnt real and i instantly considered the easter bunny, god, and every other religous character weren’t real that is why i am an athiest and i am proud. if your not an athiest thats fine, just take a long careful moment to thoroughly think what you believe in.

This is my favorite quote…

I don’t believe in God because I don’t believe in Mother Goose – Clarence Darrow

I don’t know why atheists get all the crap they do when it’s just a persons ability to think properly.

in 95, the word “prophecy” should be “prophecised”, whether that is correct spelling i am unsure. i am certain that it should read similar. and i am certain that this list is the most sensible thing i have ever seen.

If I were born in a jungle and lived my whole life there, I would never know of this God character.

Religion is taught.

Mike Jones,

Great point.

And to quote Stewie Griffin:

“Yes, I rather like this God fellow. He’s very theatrical, you know? A pestilence here, a plague there. Omnipotence! Gotta get me some of that.”

I’m drained but aching for more and the devil inside is reading the words of the saddest poem to be engraved on the stone on my grave. I’d kill to share your pain and sell my soul for you just to say: “I dream what you’re dreaming and feel what you’re feeling; Love’s our shadow on the wall with the face of God.” Nothing will be enough for the ones who keep in stumbling in the garden of withering trust without the courage to leave. I’d take my life for your kiss and lose it all to take you across the abyss; You dream what I’m dreaming and see what I’m seeing Love’s our shadow on the wall with the face of God

haha Mike jones you are so fukkin right and Bryce Tubb??? wtf ur very dumb…are u even atheist or what? cus i kinda thought that bein atheist means not believing in any religion at all….that includes the devil dumbshit and there is no god at all why would u even put that up here

First of all this is a figure produced by United Nations (real figure must b much larger):

“34000 CHILDREN UNDER AGE 5 DIE OF POVERTY AND POVERTY RELATED CAUSES EVERYDAY”

why god why? they shudnt be paid for what others do.

Some comments on the response #23
named VISARGA (the number is corresponding quote he has stated)

1. its bcoz u r addicted to religion… u dont need a god’s help love others.

2.the so called “faith” is blind belief, and by the way atheist need not have 120+ IQ but commonsense

3. u call nature the god… but ur concept of god is not that; u say later about sitting and praying

4.the point is how everyone think of god and not wat is the definition of god

5. god shud b 4 everyone if he exists not onli 4 philosophers; otherwise we must hate that god

6. do u hate christianity.. well a true racist’s mind… keep it up :P

7. if anything has different forms in front of different ppl; its as good as it doesnt exist. god must b like basic thing like food or water .. anyone will c as it is

8. axiom is- “water is colourless” well u can c that; not like u havnt seen water and u say water is colourless

9. worthless of a comment

10. either this guy dint understand what is stated or he’s is holding up all the contraries..

11. i think u can go 4 international paper physics conference and present truths about time travel.

12. i dont agree with weinburg saying good ppl act bad in religion. also i dont agree with visarga’s comment. atheism is not a race like a religion; u dont look back 4 the so called “atheists”
screwing up life.. u think on ur own and decide.

13. i think this guy is some other religion and hates christianity… he proved himself religious are racists, they hate ppl of other creed. (hmm a good thot to help riots)

14. seriousli i dont get wat u r saying, but i think u r asian.

15. as u say its all political reasons and exploitation of poor created religions (hold all the contraries upright :P)

16. we are not punished 4 our freaking mess. bush, bin laden and bal thakkare are stil alive.
and ya, y the hell is god giving us flood and war, cant he prevent it? (mayb he thinks cure is better than prevention) . ok if its the devil
and god cant stop it, then y the hell r ppl praying to god?

17. Mckown doesnt kno how to explain atheism, thats true, that doesnt mean god is ther

18. we dont need nuclear power neither do we appreciate ppl killing in the name of god while the usual prayer is to say “god make me satisfied” even if u say “i pray 4 the humanity” (crap)

19. okay we dont need more explanation 4 u dont like
christianity

20. atleast here u cud have told ur religion is the best and also the name…. :P

OH.. IF GOD EXISTS HE MAY PLS PREVENT ME FROM SUBMITTING THIS COMMENT MAY BE BY GIVING AN ELECTRIC SHOCK, THE MOST CHANCE IT HAS.

AND I HAVE THE QUESTION UNANSWERED WHY THE HELL GOD WHY ON POOR LITTLE 34000 CHILDREN

I’m a complete idiot that can’t make any rational conclusions on my own, so I rely on smarter people to tell me what to think in order to control me. Baaah baaaah baaaah.

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Just to give credit where credit is due:

#33 What’s “God”? Well, you know, when you want something really bad and you close your eyes and you wish for it? God’s the guy that ignores you. – delivered by Steve Buscemi in the movie “The Island”

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Alex Kurtzman (screenplay)
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“But facts are sterile, not vulgar or sublime. And they’re not a religion, they’re for everyone and signify the times” – Bad Religion (punk band)

brett a.k.a. harry cunt: or whatever your name is.
look little lady, atheism is the belief in nothing. Don’t be a moron and google stuff so people will think you’re smart.

It doesn’t mean “i don’t believe in religion!” it means I believe in nothing.

I just loved the quote so I put it up there. hahaha kids say the darnest things :)

“Not only did the Bible’s teachings result in the years and years of loyal Christians, but it also resulted in years and years of opposing Atheists.”

Religion is dangerous in the hands of the ignorent, so don’t touch!

Glad to see someone who’s publicizing common sense :]

It’s a damn shame how much religion corrupts the ability to think, if people have no other explanation for something than “The Lord Works In Mysterious Ways” then what is that? Your blindly trusting in the nothingness around you. How very sad.

“I worship the sun, because I can see it”

-George Carlin

as an atheist i think this is great and theres always going to be someone that has to say something negaitive about it so i just tell them i don’t care what they think & when you start to poke holes in their logic notice they don’t have anything else to say or they just walk awway if they want to convince me they’ll need better proof than the BIBLE/ it just goes to show you science is fact not a work of fiction

haha, this is sure to bring back many more laughs. keep up the good work!

I think Antony Flew said it best in his book There IS A GOD page 93 "God created the world so as to bring into being a race of rational creatures. Conway believes, and I concur, that it is possible to learn of the existence and nature of this Aristotelian God by the exercise of unaided human reason."

if everybody in the world, great and small believed that there was no God, that wouldn't change the truth.
if everybody in the world, great and small believed there was a God, that wouldn't change the truth.
Whats the truth? Ask God
feeno

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Why is it that all your quotes are an attack on people of faith? How is that tolerant and loving? What exactly does it mean to be an "atheist" that doesn't involve hating people of faith? You've proven nothing.

atheism is not an excuse. Atheist means without belief in any god. That's all.
What happens after you die ? Well, you became dead. LOL it is just stupid question.

soooo i won't "develop a life" if i'm not religious? i was born atheist… taught about religion and decided to go back to my original thought… quote Audacious MJ for that one and add it to your list!!

I love the first one! So fucken true.

We don't hate people of faith (most anyway). I don't see how any of these quotes are attacking people of faith, other than people of faith getting offended, but what doesn't offended people of faith? If you don't agree with them they get upset.

I see this quotes more as a view of logic and reason as to why these individuals do not follow faith.

It's not referring to just Christians, maybe some of them.

Christians never leave anyone else alone. They're always attacking everyone else. If there's an 'atheist' billboard (for example) they will protest until it's taken down. They only like their own views reaching the public.

The thing is it is mandated by the Bible that they DO disturb others. For example, evangelicals believe that if they do not preach to everyone it is their fault that the rest of us are going to hell.

I suppose that makes sense :) I guess I'm frustrated because I want to know what the GOOD side of being an Atheist is without (seemingly) insulting people of faith (calling them illogical, or in some cases "delusional" or just plain "stupid") Or what the hope in it is, other than trying to place themselves intellectually above all people of faith. Or blaspheme the faith of others. Ex:

"Jesus hardly made the greatest sacrifice. He knew he would be resurrected anyway. – Anonymous "

"The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully." – Richard Dawkins

Is there any way to make a point about the way you think, without having to put down someone else's ideas? I Know you guys do think you are right, just as people of faith think they are, but why do we have to say we are "better" or more "logical" (I get on theists for doing the same thing to atheists….safe to say both sides hate me ;-) )

I just see a lot of of these quotes really putting down Christianity, when MOST christians aren't the ones who are getting in people's faces and telling them they are going to burn. And MOST christians aren't as close minded as the stereotype says. It's the the small minority, which happens to (sadly) be the most vocal. It just seems that these quotes are saying that to be a good atheist, you have to think you are above theists both intellectually AND morally, and be totally intolerant of anyone disagreeing with you by calling them terrible names, or mocking what they believe. I really wish this wasn't the case :)

"straight to earth" is good rhetoric (allusion to electrical circuits etc) but "straight to he Big Bang" would be more useful.

Love the quotes!
Here is one of my favorites:

Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.
-Voltaire

VOLTAIRE
oh yeah, he's the guy that predicted the bible would be extinct by 1850.

I, personally, have read much of the bible, read some of the Qur'an, listened to Mormons, Catholics, and studied nearly every rule in the majority of religions today.

I start by asking people what they believe and why they believe so. I let them explain their beliefs, to justify their reasoning behind it. To this day, not a single person, of any religion, has been able to answer all the questions I pose to them. I do not tell people to believe this way or that way, I merely shine a light of reasoning onto the flaws in their logic. I then let them decide for themselves, I don't tell them to become Atheists; nor do I tell them to continue their current beliefs. I let them choose for themselves.

Personally, of all the religions I have looked at, I have yet to see why the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster has any less followers than Christianity.

There is not ONE creature… but none

Given to their own devices, a good person will do good things. Bad people will do bad things. If you want a good person to do a bad thing, that takes religion.

Hey at least we're not saying that everyone who disagrees with us should burn and suffer for eternity in a place called hell…don't you think that attacks us for our (non)faith? Is that tolerant and loving? We've proven nothing huh? Prove your God….

A quote by Carl Sagan
But the fact that some geniuses were laughed at does not imply that all who are laughed at are geniuses. They
laughed at Columbus, they laughed at Fulton, they laughed at the Wright brothers. But they also laughed at Bozo the clown.

Sagan was a true atheist. So much so, that before he died (after he believed evolution was a farce) instead of believing that
God created everything, he gives the credit to a spaceship dropping animals off on earth. At the time of his death many believed Sagan to be intellectual equal to Einstein.

By the way, Columbus, the Wright brothers and I believe even Bozo the clown were Christians. Don't know much about Fulton
I think he invented the steamboat tho. Anyways even Bozo the clown knows it takes more faith to believe in Noah's spaceship
than it does to believe in God.

I certainly am not at all suggesting that all atheists agree with him. But they're are plenty of scientific atheists who mentally can't grasp the theory of evolution.

P.S. These quotes were mostly entertaining, a few were witty and some even funny. I will leave you with one last quote,
I think some T-shirt guy from Wisconsin thought it up "Smile God Loves You."

Peace out, feeno

ahhh… We dont hate you. Quite the contrary, I feel a great deal of remorse for anyone who chooses to devote their life to the church. It's a shame. I get a lot of things done on Sunday from 10-11 AM.

I'm an atheist from Iran, so first of all sorry for my English. the list is great but some ain't correct for example N36 is correct this way:
"If atheism is a religion then bald is a hair color." by Mark Schnitzius.
here is the link:
http://www.quotesdaddy.com/quote/1035974/mark-sch...
But they're great anyway.

here is another one:
"I'm not God cause I exist"
by me

i loved the one about the women who haven't contributed with one word to the bible. women are smart, huh? yes we are!

I like this quote;
"In response to the Atheist veiw on God, the Christian says, "You condemn my Lord, yet still honor him by calling Him "God". The Athiest replies, "I do this in regards to your presumptuous belief that your God is the one and only, but if it makes you feel better I don't believe in your God, his god, or her gods either."

Im sorry but Atheists are right because logic tells us so. If you have faith in your religion that it is true even though you do not have proof or justification doesn't make you right. Since there is no proof of God we Atheists are right even though you believe us wrong we are right because there is no undeniable proof to tell us that there is a god. So until we can have some proof, there is no arguement, there is no god.

what is all knowing, all seeing, and all loving?

Humanity we know everything that we know, we see all that we can see, everybody is loved by someone. We are god in our own right we can change the face of the earth we can create life we can do anything.

Thanks for posing this. it is great.

The best way to prove someone one or thing right is to disprove the other option. I'm a seventeen year old kid i was brought up a belive in god i've read the bible went to church the whole deal. And i became an atheist because it the most logical choice. I am open minded and respond to all view points.

All of those quotes aren't an attack of people of faith, it's an attack on others opinions. It's funny that you feel as though "atheist" hate people of faith, but if it were true you'd be contradicting yourself as well cosidering "people of faith" "hate" people of other faiths, homosexuals, etc…

I totally agree.
Haha, Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster.

When I think of a perfect world religion isan't included.

Why is it that a person of faith is on an atheist website?

I am more powerful than god because I can ignore him, but when god is ignored he disappears.

The closest religions to being correct were ancient South Americans like the Aztecs. Worshiping the sun is logical. It's warm, it's bright, it's big, and IT'S THERE. They were wrong about the whole paying tribute thing, but 1 for 2 isn't that bad now is it?

I'd much rather worship the sun, or even an inanimate object for than matter, then to devote my life and sacrifice the exciting and happy things in life for a lie. And even if God did exist, i wouldn't worship anything so ruthless and uncaring…

We should fear God (Matthew 10:28)
We should love God (Matthew 22:37)
There is no fear in love (1 John 4:18)

Sad, moronic bablings…
God help anyone who actually listens to this crap.

'Isn’t it enough to see that a garden is beautiful without having to believe that there are fairies at the bottom of it too?'

I like the above quote of Douglas Adams………….it says it all we, are all alone in this cosmos, get use to it. Grow up theists

dude, you need to read more. a lot more.

When speaking with a friend about my questioning of faith, she made the statement that I was going to burn in hell. My response? "I'll see you there." I do not feel that Christianity is a bad thing, per se. I see it as the easy thing. Most people with unconditional faith have not put forth the effort to ask the simple questions because the answers are difficult (if not impossible) to find.

WOW! I am an athiest, but I would never say, "Your religion is wrong. That doesn't make sense because God doesn't exist. Wow your stupid and ignorant because you believe in a God."

I mean seriously folks. Why can't you be an athiest, but keep it to yourself and not soul-crush like SOME people i know. And how about when a Christain finds out someone is athiest they don't say, "That doesn't make sense, things can't just evolve. There has to be a god. your wrong. BLAH BLAH."

I'm sick and tired of complete and total morons fighting over who's right. HOLY CRAP. Just tolerate the people around you and MAYBE we won't be having wars over RELIGION!

I love being an atheist because I don't have to worry about getting up for church or being led around by an invisible hand that will squash me for doing the wrong thing…and I love reading all these comments from fellow atheists saying "if there was a God" or "If God does exist…" so they do have some feeling that he could exist haha…just an interesting sidenote

My own variation on 56.

Take from the church the miraculous, the supernatural, the incomprehensible, the unreasonable, the impossible, the unknowable, the absurd, and nothing but a a bunch of pretty buildings and costumes remains.

:P

The fear of death is so intoxicating to human beings that it has made them irrational. Why fear death, it is a natural part of life. Every being on this earth experiences the same thing. Make the most of your experience while you can. Take risks, have fun, love those that need it, discover your true identity. I have been raised a protestant christian but have always questioned what was taught. It doesn't make sense to me so I live my life how I see fit. My wife is Catholic and I support her 100%. I go to church with her and get a bunch of weird looks when I don't go up to recieve communion. Oh well. You have to let people come to their own conclusions. Live for yourself, and be mindful of others feelings.

great quotes it gives me great hope to see most of the people i truly admire and the great minds of the centuries before up here. scientists will forever cut up and find out what is right, and build a tolerance, religion will swallow whole and poison the world.

I don't think you addressed what I was responding to Joe about. In fact this doesn't look like a reply to my comment at all.

What would you say about the people who say they see angels? Like the lady Corrie Ten Boom who says that when she flew over Arkansas, she saw Angels on the four corners… What you say about that, and I don't mean "oh they are just delusional" lol, i mean seriously.

i suppose a person can believe something so much that they see what they want to see

Can anyone explain why blind faith in God (and "his" texts) have lasted this long if society is scientifically progressing? Surely no one still believes that the earth is still flat. Will this ignorance, that is religion, ever end?

The above question has been plaguing my mind ever since I started debating about religion.

Sorry, about my grammar- pretend the "have" is "has".

I think it is too hard for people to let go of that which comforts them. If you took religion away from someone, where would that leave them? Everything they thought they knew would be gone, do you think they could handle the sudden realization that when they die, that's it, there is no more? That everything that happens, just happens. Not because God did it or the Devil did it. What would they blame the evil on then? People cling to these things. They need to believe that there is more to life then just that one life. Sadly I don't think religion will ever just die off.

Most people are religious because that is the way they were raised. They are raised not to question and most do not, as their parents didn't and their parent's before them didn't. Then as they grow older, it becomes scary to question because that means you must look inside yourself, and to most people that is a terrifying option. Most people, being told how to be their whole life, have no idea what they are looking at when they turn the microscope inward. The easy option is to deflect their issues, problems, insecurities onto a "God" or "Goddess" or Buddah, whatever they believe, because that way they don't have to accept who they are. They pray and put faith in something else when the whole time they should be investing faith in themselves.

This is what I choose to do as an Atheist. I put faith in myself and in those I love. I learn from my mistakes and take the heartache when I learn something I don't like about myself then I go about fixing it. I try to live my life as well as I can and to be a good person. One does not need religion for that.

Think about this for a minute…Atheist make up about 8-10% of the population in America. In our prison system, Atheists make up less than 1% of the population. I believe that speaks volumes in itself.

If people really needed these things then atheism would be a human deficiency would it not? Atheist individuals don't have this clinging problem; they are doing just fine. I still can't get a clear answer as to WHY religion continues to exist…. their is clearly no need for it let alone the lack of evidence for it!

I don't believe atheism would be a human deficiency. Personally, I don't feel a need to cling to such things. I don't need to believe that there is an after life and that if we pray for things it will come true and that it's the devils fault that people do bad things (which is such a rediculous concept). I don't need stories to comfort me. I'm just fine that this is the one life we get. But when you are raised as a Christian, that's all you know. Take that away and it leaves you naked and then you don't know where to turn. Religion will always be around because it's passed down from generation to generation and you will never be able to get EVERYBODY to stop believing, so those people who still believe will then teach there kids and so on. Those hardcore christians will never deny it no matter how you try to point out how absurd the stories are.

Curious how Darwin's theory of evolution fits so well with religions.

I once asked a believer if it was possible that God actually created evolution, quantum physics and the vastness of the universe. His reply was that his pastor says its not true and that the truth can only be found in the bible.
If there is a designer of the universe he/she or whatever has just got to be better than the religions would have us believe.

What or where did todays religions evolve from and what are they going to evolve into. Belief in a particular god or gods have changed over time, so do gods evolve too. The religious lot should look at history for they will find that their own religion evolved from man and not a creator. or does heaven have an EXIT

The sad fact is you are right however there are all too many people in the world that need something in their lives, Atheism is in danger of fulfilling that need for some, as you say religions are passed down from one generation to another however there are always some small changes made, sometimes their Gods change but one thing is for sure they are all man made.

This is all just so depressing
:(
A quote from Lee Strobel:
"Do you not believe Christianity to be true simply because it does not make sense, or do you not believe it because you just don't want to?"
We all try to find proof to support our beliefs, because humans have huge egos.
A whole website dedicated to criticizing a group of people who base their lives on believing in something more than this earth?
In school, they teach children that bullies make fun of people because it makes them feel better about themselves.
I'm sorry that this is what it takes to make you feel better about yourself. What a hopeless life you must lead.

This shows how narrow-minded you are and how much your pride is wrapped up in your religion (most likely Christianity since they seem to believe they are being bullied which is laughable). This website's purpose isn't to "bully" or "make fun of people", it's to celebrate the joys on non-belief. Understand the difference.

Speaking of "humans having huge egos", what makes you think anyone here is bashing YOUR religion? Atheists disagree with ALL religions. If you don't like this page so much, click away it's as simple as that. Leave us freethinkers to ourselves and go back to your evangelical sites with plenty of "inspirational quotes" from Lee Strobel. I guarantee you won't find me posting over there.

I just reread your post for an additional laugh.

"What a hopeless life you must lead." HAHA What kind of loving approach is that?

Thanks for showing me your Christian virtues of tolerance for your neighbor. Really. Thanks for being a fine example of a Christian for our website.

Gratjan, you are a walking contradiction. Maybe Jesus can help you out with that problem if you pray hard enough.

Coming from people who have slaughtered millions of innocent people in the most barbaric fashion because they don't believe your particular fairy tails, feeling bullied because someone has the temerity to challenge your murderous foul organisations. Your preachers and priests should be tried for crimes against humanity. Even if there was a God I doubt very much if there is a religion worthy of it's supposed largess.

You are absolutly right humans have such great ego's maybe it was one of them who came up with the idea of prophets, and set themselves up as spokepersons. Athiests call them DICTATORS and people followed Hitler and Stalin for much the same reasons.

EVOLUTION at work The survival of the ruthless
Christianity in all its guises, so which one speaks for God?
Catholicism Roman Catholic Church – Latin Catholic Church – Eastern Catholic Churches – Ukrainian Greek Catholic Church Old Catholic Church
Protestantism – Historical Protestantism Baptist churches – Calvinist churches Reformed churches Presbyterianism Congregationalism Methodism – Lutheranism – Anabaptism/Radical Reformation Mennonites Amish Hutterites Church of the Brethren – Brethren in Christ Open Brethren Quakers The Vineyard Calvary Chapel –
Pentecostalism Assemblies of God New Apostolic Church Kimbanguist Church Church of God in Christ – The Pentecostal Mission Apostolic Church Church of God (Cleveland) Korean Presbyterian Church Christian Congregation of Brazil Church of the Lord (Aladura) Zion Christian Church International Church of the Foursquare Gospel Universal Church of the Kingdom of God
Restorationism Seventh-day Adventists Latter-day Saints Restoration Movement Christian Church (Disciples of Christ) Church of Christ Independent Christian Churches/Churches of Christ
Nontrinitarianism Jehovah's Witnesses Iglesia ni Cristo Oneness Pentecostals Unitarianism Christadelphians
Eastern Orthodoxy Autocephalous churches Russian Orthodox Church Romanian Orthodox Church Serbian Orthodox Church Church of Greece Bulgarian Orthodox Church Ukrainian Orthodox Church (Kyiv Patriarchate) Georgian Orthodox and Apostolic Church Ecumenical Patriarchate of Constantinople Greek Orthodox Church of Antioch Orthodox Church in America Polish Orthodox Church Czech and Slovak Orthodox Church Albanian Orthodox Church Cypriot Orthodox Church Greek Orthodox Church of Alexandria Ukrainian Autocephalous Orthodox Church Greek Orthodox Church of Jerusalem
Autonomous churches Ukrainian Orthodox Church (Moscow Patriarchate) Moldovan Orthodox Church Metropolis of Western Europe Finnish Orthodox Church Chinese Orthodox Church Estonian Orthodox Church Japanese Orthodox Church Russian Orthodox Church Outside Russia Metropolitan Church of Bessarabia Latvian Orthodox Church Orthodox Church of Mount Sinai Orthodox Ohrid Archbishopric
Orthodox Church of Greece (Holy Synod in Resistance) Old Calendar Romanian Orthodox Church Old Calendar Bulgarian Orthodox Church
Not universally recognized churches Macedonian Orthodox Church Ukrainian Orthodox Church – Kiev Patriarchate Croatian Orthodox Church Montenegrin Orthodox Church Karamanli Turkish Orthodox Church Orthodox Church in Italy
Church of the Genuine Orthodox Christians of Greece Russian True Orthodox Church Ukrainian Autocephalous Orthodox Church Autonomous Ukrainian Orthodox Church in America Belarusian Autocephalous Orthodox Church Old Believers
Anglicanism Anglican Communion Continuing Anglican Movement Oriental Orthodoxy Ethiopian Orthodox Church Coptic Orthodox Church – Armenian Apostolic Church Indian Orthodox Church – Syriac Orthodox Church Malankara Syriac Orthodox Church Eritrean Orthodox Church Mar Thoma Syrian Church Malabar Independent Syrian Church Assyrian Church of the East
Some religions that have been the victims of Christian tolerance and kindness.
Islam Abādites Akhbari Al-Ahbash Black P. Stones Druze Faraizi movement Galibi Order Haruriyyah Ibadi Islamic schools and branches Isma'il ibn Jafar Ismailism Ithihadu Shubbanul Mujahideen Kerala Jamaiiyyathul Ulama Kharijites Mahdavi Muslim unity Najdah ibn 'Amir Nation of Islam Nizari Nuqtavi Mahmoud Pasikhani Qadariyya Qarmatians Qur'an alone Satpanth Schism (religion) Shaykhism Sufri Taharah Tolu-e-Islam Twelver Ubayd Allah al-Mahdi Billah Usuli Vichinthanam Wahhabism Zikri Zindikites‘ Alawi
Other World religions – Hinduism Buddhism Sikhism Judaism Baha'i Faith Confucianism Jainism Zoroastrianism Shinto Taoism Wicca

Some extinct Religions and traditions (mainly at the hands of Christian genocidal fanatics)
Akan mythology Ashanti mythology (Ghana) Dahomey (Fon) mythology Efik mythology (Nigeria, Cameroon) Igbo mythology (Nigeria, Cameroon) Isoko mythology (Nigeria) Yoruba mythology (Nigeria, Benin) Bushongo mythology (Congo) Bambuti (Pygmy) mythology (Congo) Lugbara mythology (Congo) Akamba mythology (East Kenya) Dinka mythology (Sudan) Lotuko mythology (Sudan) Masai mythology (Kenya, Tanzania) Khoikhoi mythology Lozi mythology (Zambia) Tumbuka mythology (Malawi) Zulu mythology (South Africa) Abenaki mythology Aztec mythology Blackfoot mythology Cherokee mythology Chickasaw mythology Choctaw mythology Creek mythology Crow mythology Ghost Dance Guarani mythology Haida mythology Ho-Chunk mythology Hopi mythology Huron mythology Inca mythology Inuit mythology Iroquois mythology Kwakiutl mythology Lakota mythology Leni Lenape mythology Longhouse religion Maya mythology Midewiwin Navajo mythology Nootka mythology Olmec mythology Pawnee mythology Salish mythology Seneca mythology Selk'nam religion Tsimshian mythology Urarina Ute mythology Zuni mythology Bön Chinese mythology Japanese mythology Koshinto Siberian Shamanism Tengriism Estonian mythology Eskimo religion Finnish mythology and Finnish paganism Hungarian folk religion Sami religion Tadibya Australian Aboriginal mythology Austronesian beliefs Balinese mythology Javanese beliefs Melanesian mythology Micronesian mythology Modekngei Nauruan indigenous religion Philippine mythology Anito Gabâ Kulam Polynesian mythology Hawaiian mythology Maori mythology Maori religion Rapa Nui mythology Moai Tangata manu
Baltic polytheism Celtic polytheism Brythonic mythology Gaelic mythology Germanic polytheism Anglo-Saxon religion Norse religion Continental Germanic religion Greek polytheism Hungarian polytheism Finnish polytheism Roman polytheism Slavic polytheism
And finally some ancient religions and traditions

Five foot nine, he's divine
changes water into wine.
He's no fool keeps real cool
walks across the swimming pool.
Bread and fish what a dish
fed five thousand, piece of piss!
It's a lark after dark
kissing Judas in the park,
It's quite sad, but is too bad
had to die to see his dad.
He's not frail, but went quite pale
they crossed his legs
to save a nail.

It's not that Atheist don't believe, it,s just the religions of the world we don't believe. In exactly the same way christianity is disbelieved by Hindus and vice versa. Atheists also have faith, a hope and desire to find truth, unlike religions who think they have found it and will go to any length to convince unbelievers the error of their ways, including murder torture ethnic cleansing etc etc. We are also affraid of what religions will do next and just hope it does not include nuclear weapons.

Thanks for your prayers Brother Edwin, but what will speaking to the invisible accomplish? I'll be sure to talk to my invisible friends for you too, they told me that they are also all powerful.

"If you admitted that there is a God you would have to change your lifestyle…"

What are you suggesting by this statement? Are you suggesting that atheists are amoral and heartless rapists and murderers? Do atheists not have values?

And the funny thing is that you are right when you say that I would have to change my lifestyle if I admitted there is a god. I would have to become stupid and closed-minded, abandon the search for truth, become irrational and never use logic, judge people based upon their sexuality, believe in silly concepts like heaven and hell, and all in all be willing to throw my life away for a god concept backed by "holy texts" upon the promise of an afterlife. I would suggest you try and value the one life you will ever have as much as possible. But thanks for your prayers anyway Brother Edwin. May YOU actually see the light one day.

What exactly are you referring to when you say "What you have been through"??

This is exactly right.

I would first ask Christians to read a few Creation Myths from around the world; Babylonian, Korean, Navajo, Norse, Japanese, Comanche, Chinese, Chelan, Pima, Mayan, Miwok, Scandinavian (Norse), Salish, Australian Aboriginal Hopi, Tahitian, Yokut, Comanche, Egyptian, African – Mande, Yoruba, Micmac, Lakota, India, Romanian, Mongol, Chinese Creation / Flood Myth, Assyrian / Babylonian, Maori, Aztec, Digueno, Apache, Dakota, Hungarian, Iroquois, Inuit, Huron, Hawaiian, Can a Christian demonstrate or provide empirical proof that these myths are less valid than their stories and myths.
So why should anyone (other than Jews or Christians of course) believe the Jewish/Christian creation myth, (told by some goat herders in the Middle East a few millennia ago) to any greater extent than those listed above. One of the answers to this question lies in the nature of Christianity it is fundamentally a huge business where the greater the congregation the greater the money it generates and the greater the power it has in spiritual and political matters.
. Today’s Christianity is made up of a multitude of different sects and branches with splinter groups splitting off almost daily, coupled with Christianity’s ability to absorb parts of other religions, cultures and traditions and make them its own. It adapts and changes to suit local conditions and histories. It pretends to speak with one voice and at the same time blames different factions for atrocities committed in the name of their god, its many schisms and divisions have spread throughout the world each claiming to be the sole custodian of truth. Christianity can’t even agree on its own holy book the Bible,

The Bible is the central religious text of Judaism and Christianity. The exact composition of the Bible is dependent on the religious traditions of specific denominations. Modern Judaism generally recognizes a single set of canonical books known as the Tanakh, It comprises three parts: the Torah ("Teaching", also known as the Pentateuch or "Five Books of Moses"), the Prophets, and the Writings. It was primarily written in Hebrew with some small portions in Aramaic.
The Christian Bible includes the same books as the Tanakh (referred to in this context as the Old Testament), but usually in a different order, together with twenty-seven specifically Christian books collectively known as the New Testament. Those were originally written in Greek. Among some traditions, the Bible includes books that were not accepted in other traditions, often referred to as apocryphal. Eastern Orthodox Churches use all of the books that were incorporated into the Septuagint, to which they add the earliest Greek translation of the Deuterocanonicals; Roman Catholics include seven of these books in their canon; and many Protestant Bibles follow the modern Jewish canon, excluding the additional books. Some editions of the Christian Bible have a separate Biblical apocrypha section for books not considered canonical.
Many Christians, regard the Bible as inspired by God yet written by a variety of men from different countries and traditions over thousands of years. Many others regard both the New and Old Testament as the undiluted Word of God, spoken by God and written down in its perfect form by humans. Still others hold the Bible as infallible.
Then you have the modern day religions ranging from Joseph Smith and his Latter Day Saints Movement and their holy book of Mormon. Mr Smith claimed to have direct instructions and revelations from God, so why did he have to set up his very own religion to get his message out. The answer is short ‘belief’.
Jehovah's Witnesses founded by Charles Taze Russell. Consider the Bible as the supreme authority for their teachings and practices, but diverge greatly from traditional Christian theology, which has caused several major Christian denominations to denounce the group as either a cult or heretical sect. Medical ethicists have criticized Jehovah's Witnesses as an authoritarian group for coercing members to reject blood transfusions. Former adherents have claimed that the religion demands unquestioning obedience from members, with the consequence of expulsion and shunning facing any who act in disagreement with its doctrines. Of course this is mirrored in the Orthodox catholic Churches where excommunication is used as a threat to keep wayward adherents in line. Indeed the threat of being excluded from any group is a very powerful incentive, after all human beings are a social animal with a psychological need to be with likeminded and kindred people.
In recent years there has been an explosion of ‘New Age Religions’ sects and cults all with their own claims of what is truth. Some are disillusioned with the ‘mainstream’ religions taking their teachings from Eastern religions, aboriginal mythologies fitting them around their own interpretations. Some use hallucinogenic substances (Shamanism) some use Paganism and the Occult for their inspiration. All seek out like new disciples to reinforce their own beliefs. The Christian Watchtower Fellowship monitors the activities of over a thousand of these groups and exactly like the Watch Tower Fellowship they all claim to be the custodians of truth and enlightenment. Part of the response to this, is; in today’s more secular democracies you can’t use the old method of sending out a crusading army to slaughter the unbeliever or heretics. The use of modern technologies in getting your message and propaganda out and being adaptive to modern advertising techniques is far more efficient. Political lobbying and support for political parties and candidates is also used to great advantage.

So the reason I wouldn't be a Christian even if they could give incontrovertible proof that their god exists is the same as why I wouldn't join the Neo Nazis….. murderous, dictatorial and downright bad. and I would fight to my last breath not to allow these people any power to spread their garbage.

Mom, first I want to clarify that atheists do not "believe" in any gods, it is an anti-theist who doubts the existence of gods as you have suggested.

Secondly, all you are doing is giving credit to the invisible for any strength that you have shown during any hard times in your life. Mom, you may credit god for all the positive and strong attributes that you have shown, when really you yourself are the strong and positive force.

Atheists credit themselves for any strength during hard times and they also credit themselves for any accomplishments. They also take all blame for their mistakes and failures. We just remove the invisible from the equation.

A question for you:

If you credit god for giving you the strength to survive what you have gone through, who is to blame when bad things do happen? Surely your god is responsible for both sides of the equation. If your god gives you strength and joy, its the same god that is causing pain and weakness. When you lose a loved one, its much more relieving to know that it was just a normal course of life than to think that your god has taken them from you for a reason that you cannot understand.

im atheist i believe in many things but god or gods i dont and even if it turns out there is a god then oh well send me to hell because if i was stuck in an enormous place where all i was able to do is worship "god" then id much rather be in hell…and seriously if you think about it why would a god create people who are capable of murder rape or anything of the sort he wouldn't and honestly why would he or she let a mass murderer in heaven if all he did was repent for his sins and honestly everyone would be goin to hell because i dont believe any1 who says they've never lied and if i'm not mistaking to lie is a sin…. no form of any kind will dictate on what i do or think or how to live my life i determine all of it…….

Christians should wake up and realise that Atheism is what they started in the 'Reformation', only Athiests take it one step further and treat the whole religion thing as' corrupt organisations based on a lie'.

WOW! absolutely wonderful!

I have my own quote

"Religion free is the way to be!"

Hmm when do you think religion will finally be outlawed? When do you think that the act of spreading such a poison to child and in school will be treated the same as someone force feeding a person drugs? When do you think religion will finally be recognized as a supreme mental illness it has always been? When do you think religion will finally be permanently eradicted out of existence?

Religion spreads naught but bigotry, misery, violence, cruelty, ignorance, and abuse and claims that these are all jusified.

Atheism promotes education and intelligence, true creativity and imagination, love and appreciation, caring and understanding. If only more people chose love over hate. Hate is so easy to sink into, it is love and appreciation that takes work to attain and maintain. yet love and appreciation are the most beautiful and valuable resources there are for mankind. It is what keeps us all connected and helping each other without a need of a god threatening us to do so. Choosing love over hate is choosing atheism over religion.

Did you know people call me a horrible person because I show and express full love and appreciation to my mother for all that she has done for me throughout my life? They say that I should wastefully give that love and appreciation to their personal imaginary friend instead. It's pathetic and ridiculous.

Thanks again! love your blog!

you are forgetting that god is the biggest bully in all works of fiction. So to teach religion and promote religion in any way, you are promoting and justifying a bully, and thus trying to turn all innocent children you teach into bullies. Atheists want such abuse to stop and that people should take the extra time and love to understand and appreciate the real world and real people in our lives, instead of justifying and worshipping the worst fictional bully ever created by man.

I cannot argue with those who are set on believing in utter void I can only pitty them. If you saw a computer and had no idea what it was would you say that it evolved over millions of years? Everything in the universe has to work together perfectly, like circuts on a computer only far more comples and when one sees a good computer they give credit to it’s creator. Why can’t we apply the same principle to nature without being called dillusionists?

I have to dissagree with you. I don't know much about other religions but christianity is devoted specifically to loving others, even those we disagree with. I know things like the Salem Witch Trails are horrible events in history and it gives us a bad name, but our religion in itself does not promote those things. If on believes that we are intellingently created it automatically gives humans value as created beings, not blobs of randomly selected cells.

you only believe in something because it makes youfeel good. To recognize the truth of how we all got her and developed doesnt make you feel good. so you choose to believe a "feel good lie" instead. How are you any different from a person who chooses to get high on drugs because it makes them feel good instead of NOT being under the influence of ANY drug. You are wrong about religion and christianity. Christianity only wants you to spread love but ONLY with the death threat of hell, sin, satan over your head. It is the same thing as "helping" someone only because you have a gun to your head. that is NOT helping and that is NOT love. Religion is a poison. The sooner you realize that the sooner you can get back into the real world and start loving and appreciating the real people in your life properly. Stop believing in this just because they make you feel good. Thats what drug addicts do.

Remember, Believing is Deceiving. Also if you look at the word BELIEFS or BELIEVE…..the VERY center of each of those words is "LIE". The core of all beliefs are a LIE. Even the word beliefs tell you that. PLEASE do humanity a favor and quit religion. dont let this drug addiction get the best of you! You are a human being! you are much greater than that!

That sounds pretty hopeless to me… I mean calling me a drug addict?? You claim to spread love and I don't see anything loving in that.Could you quote any scripture that says anything along those lines for me???? Cause I haven't seen any.The story I believe in is one of grace it is one of a god that saves us from hell and gave the ultimate sacrifice for EVERYONE even drug addicts.

I don't believe in a christian god any more than I believe in a hindu or moslem god. I guess that makes me a polyatheist. Each and every religion claims it has the ownership on truth and god(s) and there are far more *other* people in the world than christian – so based on sheer numbers they (those of the other religions) are more likely to be right. However I am not sure that makes me an atheist. I do believe the universe exists for a reason. Is a reason for the universe to exist the same as the existence of a god who spends time fretting over a virulent lifeform that is hell bent on detroying a small planet around a third rate sun at the thin end of the milky way in a tiny galaxy amongst an infinite number of others ? That I am not convinced of. You have no idea how insignificant you are. All of you. Get real – if a creator for this universe did exist it would not be the slightest bit interested in your or I any more than it was interested in all the life forms that have flourished and since dissappeared on this miserable little planet. I guess that makes me an atheist. By the way – I do believe in death after life.

Hey this is great stuff! i am acutaly from a Muslim family and we are acutaly finding oursevles agreeing to this stuff! WOOHOOO. great stuff . for real . no sarcasm wat so ever.
some of these made me crack up too. !! keep it up post some more