UK Government Bans Westboro Baptist Church

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If there is anything to be said of the UK government’s actions on free speech this week, it is that they are consistent. First, they ban Geert Wilders, an elected politician in the Netherlands from entering the UK to show his film to the House of Lords (an event he was invited to I might add). Geert Wilders’ movie “Fitna” portrays the Qur’an as a book filled with hate, and argues that the teachings within it have encouraged followers to commit terrorism and violence towards women. All of his accusations are accurate. The Qur’an has many examples of both intolerance and violence in its pages, and this needs to be brought to attention of politicians if they are going to start making laws against “discrimination” of religions.
Secondly, the UK government announced today that the Westboro Baptist Church were banned from the UK. The group, known for protesting the funerals of dead soldiers and pro-gay events, had planned on coming to the UK to protest a play that was being performed. The play was about the torture and murder of a gay American student, and has been the target of the church before in the US. I wrote a blog post yesterday that argued for the right of the WBC to picket the event, on the ground of free speech. They weren’t telling people to go out and kill gay people (as Muslim clerics often preach) but instead they were preaching what the Bible says, that homosexuality is an “abomination”.
This is what angers me the most. That it is somehow “ok” to pick and choose what freedom of speech entails; that just because large amounts of Muslims believe that killing non-believers is a divine right, to reject that view and argue against it is a violation of religious freedom; that fringe groups wanting to express ideas cannot express them if they might somehow upset the status quo. Sure, what the WBC preach is hatred, but the fact that we recognise it as hatred is evidence enough that people are going to reject it and counter it with their own opinions. Banning such opinions isn’t going to make them go away, and I suspect that the “prohibition” effect will simply make their words louder and heard more often.
Freedom of speech has limits, it has to in order for it to work. The point is though, that any limits need to be kept to a minimum, and it can usually be kept to just one, namely, any speech that incites people to commit crimes. You can say you dislikeĀ someone, or that you hate them for whatever reason, but as soon as you encourage people to harm them, or kill them, or commit crimes against them, you are stepping out of the boundaries of freedom of speech. It is for these reasons that I do not support banning the Bible or the Qur’an for their content, but rather make sure that the content can be critised in every medium available, and why I support the right of the WBC to say what they do about homosexuals, atheists, muslims, etc. As long as I have my right to say what I think in return, then we have no problems. It is when you suppress freedom of speech, as the UK government has done in the cases of Geert Wilders and the WBC, that the entire system becomes worthless. We might as well not have freedom of speech in this country if our government can decide what is and what is not acceptable on the fly as it appears they currently think they can do.

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The fact that Wilders is an elected MP (and possibly a fascist) is incidental – he was simply pointing out that certain passages in the book have been used, often, to justify violence and even mass murder. That's simply a fact that anyone in this country could equally state. As for the WBC and other hateful bigots, as Johann Hari said so eloquently this week: "The solution to the problems of free speech – that sometimes people will say terrible things – is always and irreducibly more free speech." It's only when some speech (religious) gets special protection from lawsuit and criticism that we have major problems.
Basically I agree with you. It makes me angry, so a comic take on it:
http://ranaban.blogspot.com/2009/02/wilder-geese-...
First of all, the Qur'an does not specifically condone violence or intolerance in its pages. Extremists take certain passages and twist them to fit their hateful ideals. I have the read the Qur'an in its entirety for a religion class and it is actually beautifully written, with messages of love, kindness, and tolerance. I think the UK's stance on extremism is wonderful and a landmark decision that could change the face of international politics in the long-run. Extremism from any side of the spectrum breeds fear, intolerance, ignorance, hatred and eventually violence. There is never an opportunity for dialogue with extremists and that is dangerous.
Secondly, the Westboro Baptist Church is a very violent radical religious sect that has encouraged, sanctioned, and committed murders of homosexuals. They don't just preach hatred, they preach "the killing of fags." You and I know that they are just hateful people, but they have a strong and dedicated following, making them very dangerous. Free speech is not an issue here, it's about protecting the people of a community who are endangered by the presence of the hateful bigots. Additionally, for as many passages as uneducated Christians cite against homosexuality, many sects of Christianity have found just as many that support acceptance of homosexuals (Presbyterians, for example).
the Westboro Baptist Church are americans and therefore do not have the same rights as UK citizens. Just like the same freedom of speech would not completely be the right of a visiting UK citizen in america. They and we would not have the right to detain because of this but the nations would have the complete right to refuse passage into their country.